Indiana / Temple

[fullor30]

Example of a great call at I believe approximately 3:06 mark in second half

Shooting two....... Announcers(shocking) were perplexed by in the act of shooting

Nice job

[Adam]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Example of a great call at I believe approximately 3:06 mark in second half

Shooting two....... Announcers(shocking) were perplexed by in the act of shooting

Nice job

Saw that play, loved the call.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No, I mean not there. Not even technically correct.

Like a player bobbling the ball and a travel is called. Or a high dribble is called as a travel or carry call. Or a player that falls to the ground, lost the ball and then when they grab it a travel is called. I can guarantee I can see these will be called when I watch HS games.

Peace

I'd like to say those are JV calls.

But they're not. The better hs refs don't make them, but enough do to make my life difficult when these plays happen in my games.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'd like to say those are JV calls.

But they're not. The better hs refs don't make them, but enough do to make my life difficult when these plays happen in my games.

I agree for the most part.

Actually in my experience the officials that get these calls right most of the time, are the ones that work college. So I love it when JAR tries to suggest that officials are just passing on calls on purpose. I see officials all the time at the HS level more worried about how much they call instead of just calling their game. Then again that is my experience.

Peace

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Could have been a foul, not sure about that. But the travel is undeniable. I thought that the right foot was the pivot, but even if you say no that the gather was still in progress at this point and the left was the pivot, the toe of his left foot hits the floor again before the release.

Close play...... maybe a travel, maybe not. I didn't think so in real time but I can see that it might be in slo-mo. I think the lead reffed it on "that looked wrong" rather than watching pivot feet. He got lucky. :-) I think the outside officials have better looks on those plays.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

....I love it when JAR tries to suggest that officials are just passing on calls on purpose.

This is not a new concept and I was not alone in the opinion. From '07:

ncaa traveling

Originally Posted by just another ref

I have seen more plays in the tournament this year that make me spontaneously point (travel! that's a travel) than ever before. It seem that d1 is catching up to what is allowed in the nba. Or is that just my take?

Originally Posted by rainmaker

.....it seems pretty obvious that a lot of refs lean toward leniency rather than strictness. I disagree that the only blatant travels yesterday were at the beginning of the dribble. I saw at least two that were on clear breaks to the basket. No question about allowing an extra step or two after the ball was clearly gathered.

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Some of the "jump stops" are BLATANT travels. A player cannot gather the ball and jump off BOTH feet and land. That's a very easy call but I see it ignore constantly, in high school and college, even in the NCAA Tournament when the best of the best are working.

I've read where people say they "don't want my playoff game to turn into a bunch of travel calls." That's a BS copout. If officials were more consistent in calling it, the problem wouldn't exist.

Yes, JAR, you are correct. It's a HUGE disadvantage for the defense.

And from last year:

Travel much?

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[just another ref]

Originally Posted by zebraman

Close play...... maybe a travel, maybe not. I didn't think so in real time but I can see that it might be in slo-mo. I think the lead reffed it on "that looked wrong" rather than watching pivot feet. He got lucky. :-) I think the outside officials have better looks on those plays.

So, even after the slow motion look, you're still not sure that this is a travel?

Could you explain?

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So, even after the slow motion look, you're still not sure that this is a travel?

Could you explain?

It's just hard to tell if his left foot hits again before he throws up his off-balance shot. It's a close play. It might be a travel. It's so close, that I still think that the lead guessed in real time because it "looked funny."