Gonzaga / Southern video (Added)

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Like I have said before, show us where a rule or interpretation suggests that any movement is considered a "signal" and then you can make that ruling with great confidence. Otherwise you are giving your personal opinion that no one off this site would be likely having. Absolutely never heard this argument a day in my career before and we have talked about these situations many times before. Also many of us that you claim are defending the official at all costs often have criticized other officials for other things, so that holds little to no water either.

Peace

I disagree with this statement. I'm sure the coaches had something to say and discussed it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I disagree with this statement. I'm sure the coaches had something to say and discussed it.

First of all it is hyperbole. Secondly I have never been to any association, staff or personal discussion with any official that has ever said that a blarge is when an official "looks like" they are going to signal something. And considering that it was never discussed by the anyone after the game for that purpose, I am going to guess it probably is not something many non-officials are even thinking about. Just an educated guess of course.

Peace

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

First of all it is hyperbole. Secondly I have never been to any association, staff or personal discussion with any official that has ever said that a blarge is when an official "looks like" they are going to signal something. And considering that it was never discussed by the anyone after the game for that purpose, I am going to guess it probably is not something many non-officials are even thinking about. Just an educated guess of course.

Peace

Well you have stated that hyperbole as fact in a couple of posts. I was pointing out that it is not fact. Does this mean every double whistle is discussed? Nope. But when you have a play similar to this, you can bet you will have a discussion with at least one of the coaches about it and that coach will have a discussion about it.
This whole thing could be avoided if the NF and NCAA-M mirrored the NCAA-W on this.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Well you have stated that hyperbole as fact in a couple of posts. I was pointing out that it is not fact. Does this mean every double whistle is discussed? Nope. But when you have a play similar to this, you can bet you will have a discussion with at least one of the coaches about it and that coach will have a discussion about it.
This whole thing could be avoided if the NF and NCAA-M mirrored the NCAA-W on this.

Again, it is obvious that it was hyperbole, remember you stated what is obvious right as the standard?

I am sure someone, somewhere is having a conversation about this. But it is certainly not a common discussion. If you have been around this site we discuss blarges all the time on this site. Many times the threads start with "Almost a blarge in the ....... game." And not one time can I recall anyone after seeing the video trying to suggest any movement should result in a blarge. I subscribe to APG's YouTube site and never have has anyone when I have shown his videos with blarges or almost blarges has anyone suggested what people are suggesting in this thread. So if it was so obvious, why bring up this issue now? Has the rules or interpretations changed in the past year or during the season? If there is only one choice this should have been raised several times before and certainly during this season alone. Never heard this even be suggested on some really wierd area except for one poster that seems to want to have the crusade of that we should not have blarges. And just like this case, he has no rules support for that position.

And I could give a damn what NCAAW does. And I do not see this as a problem. They need a lot more to worry about than what NCAAW officials do. That is all I will say about that part of this discussion.

Peace

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Again, it is obvious that it was hyperbole, remember you stated what is obvious right as the standard?

I am sure someone, somewhere is having a conversation about this. But it is certainly not a common discussion. If you have been around this site we discuss blarges all the time on this site. Many times the threads start with "Almost a blarge in the ....... game." And not one time can I recall anyone after seeing the video trying to suggest any movement should result in a blarge. I subscribe to APG's YouTube site and never have has anyone when I have shown his videos with blarges or almost blarges has anyone suggested what people are suggesting in this thread. So if it was so obvious, why bring up this issue now? Has the rules or interpretations changed in the past year or during the season? If there is only one choice this should have been raised several times before and certainly during this season alone. Never heard this even be suggested on some really wierd area except for one poster that seems to want to have the crusade of that we should not have blarges. And just like this case, he has no rules support for that position.

And I could give a damn what NCAAW does. And I do not see this as a problem. They need a lot more to worry about than what NCAAW officials do. That is all I will say about that part of this discussion.

Peace

Another blarge - Missouri State at Creighton

Rut: See your bolded statement above then click on that link. It is a thread I started this season with a video of a clearly obvious blarge where the L CLEARLY signals a PC foul and the C CLEARLY signals a block. They both completely signal their foul. Is that not the definition of a blarge?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Another blarge - Missouri State at Creighton

Rut: See your bolded statement above then click on that link. It is a thread I started this season with a video of a clearly obvious blarge where the L CLEARLY signals a PC foul and the C CLEARLY signals a block. They both completely signal their foul. Is that not the definition of a blarge?

What's that have to do with the Gonzaga/Southern play? In your video both officials had a full preliminary signal.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

What's that have to do with the Gonzaga/Southern play? In your video both officials had a full preliminary signal.

Read Rut's comment that I quoted. I read it that he is saying that he hasn't seen a video on here where it is clear that two officials have two different signals that should result in a blarge. I guess if D1 officials aren't going to swallow their pride and administer the blarge like they should(Like my video in that link), then they sure aren't going to do it when the block signal is only done half way.

After reading his comment about 10 more times he may be saying that no one ever suggests that partial signals equate to a full signal. I'm not really sure.