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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Then what exactly was the Trail stopping the Lead from doing then?

He blew the whistle and put his hands in the air to signal a block....that movement is considered a signal in every basketball game I've ever watched. He sure isn't waving down the beer guy.

Again, show me the rule that says that any movement is considered a signal that would result in a blarge? And unless you have not worked with many people, I see officials often in games I have worked make it clear they are taking the call without even having to put up their hands. Usually that is why you put your arm up first and then make eye contact and then when you realize that no one else has made a call or someone else has made a call, you then signal of what you are going with. Again, just show us the interpretation and I will agree with you if it says what you suggest.

Peace

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Again, show me the rule that says that any movement is considered a signal that would result in a blarge? And unless you have not worked with many people, I see officials often in games I have worked make it clear they are taking the call without even having to put up their hands. Usually that is why you put your arm up first and then make eye contact and then when you realize that no one else has made a call or someone else has made a call, you then signal of what you are going with. Again, just show us the interpretation and I will agree with you if it says what you suggest.

Peace

Answer my question. What was the T stopping the L from doing?

There is no rule that governs signals and mechanics, only universally accepted signals that officials, coaches, players, and fans recognize.

The L did not "put an arm up" to simply stop the clock with a closed fist indicating he had a foul, he put both fists up and started his block signal. If you can't figure that signal out I don't know why you officiate.

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Originally Posted by zm1283

answer my question. What was the t stoping the l from doing?

There is no rule that governs signals and mechanics, only universally accepted signals that officials, coaches, players, and fans recognize.

The l did not "put an arm up" to simply stop the clock with a closed fist indicating he had a foul, he put both fists up and started his block signal. If you can't figure that signal out i don't know why you officiate.

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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Answer my question. What was the T stoping the L from doing?

There is no rule that governs signals and mechanics, only universally accepted signals that officials, coaches, players, and fans recognize.

I can answer your question all day, it does not change the fact there there is no rules support to say a signal is given when someone "raises their arms" in any way shape or fashion. I have seen an official do the same thing when there is a simple double whistle and stop their partners from coming out with a signal. I have really seen that happen in D1 situations. He could be simply stopping him (as I have said before in this thread) and say, "I got this." There are a lot of reasons people put up their hands.

Originally Posted by zm1283

The L did not "put an arm up" to simply stop the clock with a closed fist indicating he had a foul, he put both fists up and started his block signal. If you can't figure that signal out I don't know why you officiate.

If your argument is why someone signaled something, then we will never agree. You need a rule to support that this is nothing but a blarge and you do not have one right now. That is all I am saying so what you "think" means nothing when the rules makers have not said that applies to a blarge situation and only a blarge situation. Maybe they will one day address this specific situation, but they have not at this point.

Peace

[just another ref]

I think this is not an argument that we can have here. If I understand it, there is nothing in the books making a signal, or any part thereof, binding at any level. (there definitely isn't in NFHS) So it is ultimately a matter of what the bosses want.

Ask them.