Foul without contact?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

10-6-1: A player shall not.........push.......an opponent by extending arms......


The fact that he's holding the ball doesn't change the fact that it was a push, clearly an illegal act.

Whatever it is, how can it be a no call?

That's a laughable interpretation. Talk about not understanding the context.
The text says arms, legs, hip, etc., but clearly does NOT list the ball.
Trying looking at these for clarification:
"ART. 1 . . . Blocking is illegal personal contact which impedes the progress of an opponent with or without the ball.
ART. 2 . . . Charging is illegal personal contact caused by pushing or moving into an opponent’s torso."

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The text says arms, legs, hip, etc., but clearly does NOT list the ball.

Doesn't list a 2 x 4 either. Can I carry one of them and use it to clear space?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Doesn't list a 2 x 4 either. Can I carry one of them and use it to clear space?

So if he uses a 2x4 you're calling a personal foul instead of a technical foul.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

So if he uses a 2x4 you're calling a personal foul instead of a technical foul.

The point was:

He pushed. He cleared space. That is a given in the case at hand.


I understand the argument that contact with the ball cannot be a personal, though I don't agree.

I don't understand how it could be a no call.