The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Sun Mar 10, 2013, 09:34pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 275
Pointing Mechanic

Saw a mechanic over the weekend at a hs playoff game by a guy that I believe works college ( had his cca jacket on for warmups), he often pointed the other direction after a made bucket. So I have noticed the are a few NCAA guys that do this as well since then. Is this leftover from signaling a two pointer or a college mechanic?
__________________
"They don't play the game because we show up to officiate it"
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Sun Mar 10, 2013, 09:46pm
Esteemed Participant
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 4,775
Guy was wearing his CCA jacket at a High School game? Wow.

Not an official mechanic in NFHS or NCAA-W.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:12pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by packersowner View Post
Saw a mechanic over the weekend at a hs playoff game by a guy that I believe works college ( had his cca jacket on for warmups), he often pointed the other direction after a made bucket. So I have noticed the are a few NCAA guys that do this as well since then. Is this leftover from signaling a two pointer or a college mechanic?
I do this on the rare occassion there is contact that I think is a flop or not call worthy and the player on the ground looks at me. It's just a reminder to him to get his butt up as his team is one man down on defense.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:16pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockyroad View Post
Guy was wearing his CCA jacket at a High School game? Wow.
Pretty much says it all.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:54pm
Eschew obfuscation.
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: IL
Posts: 304
I've done this on a RARE occasion, and it's more for my partners than anything else. If I rotated late, or if I think they didn't recognize my rotation (seeing that they are a very low T), I'll point after a made basket and say their name to make sure they know I'm on their side of the floor.

I know on tape it looks like I'm just pointing, but that's why I do it. No other reason to do it though...
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Sun Mar 10, 2013, 11:57pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: West Orange, NJ
Posts: 2,583
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam View Post
Pretty much says it all.
Ditto. I remember when I lived in GA ('96-00) the higher-ups in our association got on ALL the college guys about wearing their CCAs to H.S. games. The message was "don't big-time your non-college partners."
__________________
"Everyone has a purpose in life, even if it's only to serve as a bad example."
"If Opportunity knocks and he's not home, Opportunity waits..."
"Don't you have to be stupid somewhere else?" "Not until 4."
"The NCAA created this mess, so let them live with it." (JRutledge)
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:12am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by JetMetFan View Post
Ditto. I remember when I lived in GA ('96-00) the higher-ups in our association got on ALL the college guys about wearing their CCAs to H.S. games. The message was "don't big-time your non-college partners."
I dont see how a college patch is big timing. If he acted like a jack a$$ then that's different but I personally wouldn't care. I'm just not that sensitive to these issues.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:14am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: West Orange, NJ
Posts: 2,583
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee View Post
I dont see how a college patch is big timing. If he acted like a jack a$$ then that's different but I personally wouldn't care. I'm just not that sensitive to these issues.
It's all about perception. It gives the appearance the guy with the CCA patch is automatically better than those without.
__________________
"Everyone has a purpose in life, even if it's only to serve as a bad example."
"If Opportunity knocks and he's not home, Opportunity waits..."
"Don't you have to be stupid somewhere else?" "Not until 4."
"The NCAA created this mess, so let them live with it." (JRutledge)
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:19am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by JetMetFan View Post
It's all about perception. It gives the appearance the guy with the CCA patch is automatically better than those without.
I get the appearance of perception and what it means to many. I have a hard time getting my hands around a concept that is not real is what it boils down to (plus perception is very arbitrary and subjective). It's just me personally but I always let the person's actions speak for themselves and I can see how some would take offense I personally don't.

And on a side note I would automatically assume a college official is (and should) be a better official that a HS one (practically speaking not always true but this should be the case). Much like how an NBA player would be better than a college player.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:10am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 14,995
Quote:
Originally Posted by packersowner View Post
Saw a mechanic over the weekend at a hs playoff game by a guy that I believe works college ( had his cca jacket on for warmups), he often pointed the other direction after a made bucket. So I have noticed the are a few NCAA guys that do this as well since then. Is this leftover from signaling a two pointer or a college mechanic?
It is a holdover from the initial implementation of the shot clock. It is simply an indication to the shot clock operator to reset and prepare to start a new shot clock period for the ensuing possession.

Officials used to do this on steals too.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:22am
AremRed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref View Post
It is a holdover from the initial implementation of the shot clock. It is simply an indication to the shot clock operator to reset and prepare to start a new shot clock period for the ensuing possession.

Officials used to do this on steals too.
I see this done in college and the NBA on a regular basis. Are you sure it is a holdover? If so, why do many officials do it? I can't see so many high level officials doing a mechanic that is unnecessary.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:28am
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanwestref View Post
I see this done in college and the NBA on a regular basis. Are you sure it is a holdover? If so, why do many officials do it? I can't see so many high level officials doing a mechanic that is unnecessary.
Because 1. They've been officiating a long time. Or 2. They learned under guys who have been doing it a long time.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:43am
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 22,934
The Sharks And The Jets ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by JetMetFan View Post
It's all about perception. It gives the appearance the guy with the CCA patch is automatically better than those without.
I keep thinking about somebody bringing a gun to a knife fight.
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:05am
Official & Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,379
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockyroad View Post
Guy was wearing his CCA jacket at a High School game? Wow.

Not an official mechanic in NFHS or NCAA-W.
Probably reports numbers with two hands too.
__________________
Calling it both ways...since 1999
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:49am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,016
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam View Post
Because 1. They've been officiating a long time. Or 2. They learned under guys who have been doing it a long time.
Or because (insert big name here) does it and I want people to think I am just as good as (insert big name) and now it's a habit.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
pointing at home? jwwashburn Baseball 23 Thu Aug 09, 2012 01:39pm
Pointing toward Heaven flagged? JugglingReferee Football 10 Sat Sep 03, 2011 08:34pm
Offensive Linemen Pointing Spence Football 8 Mon Oct 04, 2010 01:19pm
pointing on strikes? bniu Softball 22 Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:08pm
NCAA pointing -NFHS? footlocker Basketball 6 Mon Feb 16, 2004 01:03pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:13am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1