Another buzzer beater?

[APG]

I have to assume they didn't get the same views that we did (which I'd have to ask why if that was the case) cause that was clearly late.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by APG

I have to assume they didn't get the same views that we did (which I'd have to ask why if that was the case) cause that was clearly late.

They are usually dependent on the TV feed.

Peace

[deecee]

this wasn't even close IMO.

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

They are usually dependent on the TV feed.

Peace

Exactly...so I'm not sure what the issue is here. That's clearly and obviously a late shot and was so evidently late that I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt to the 3 officials there and hope they didn't get the same views somehow.

[APG]

It's also possible they looked at the TV clock instead of looking at the LED lights/game clock and based their decision off of that.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by APG

It's also possible they looked at the TV clock instead of looking at the LED lights/game clock and based their decision off of that.

This is probably what happened. These officials have probably never used replay before in their careers and are therefore in a bad spot because they are probably unfamiliar with the rules and practical application of using replay to make these types of calls. This situation reminds me of the states that use 2-man throughout the regular season and maybe the beginning of the playoffs, and then switch to 3-man and expect the officials to be experts at the system. It is really kind of ridiculous to expect officials who never use replay system to all of a sudden be thrown into a situation where they have replay available and expect them to completely understand how to use it.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by johnny d

This is probably what happened. These officials have probably never used replay before in their careers and are therefore in a bad spot because they are probably unfamiliar with the rules and practical application of using replay to make these types of calls. This situation reminds me of the states that use 2-man throughout the regular season and maybe the beginning of the playoffs, and then switch to 3-man and expect the officials to be experts at the system. It is really kind of ridiculous to expect officials who never use replay system to all of a sudden be thrown into a situation where they have replay available and expect them to completely understand how to use it.

Whether or not you don't have replay experience the rule is that the LED lights trumps the horn, unless I misread that rule.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by deecee

Whether or not you don't have replay experience the rule is that the LED lights trumps the horn, unless I misread that rule.

That also might be something you want to review when you are working a situation where a LED light might come into play.

Peace

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by deecee

Whether or not you don't have replay experience the rule is that the LED lights trumps the horn, unless I misread that rule.

When using replay on clocks with tenths of a second, the reading of zeros is the first thing to look for provided the game clock or time is visible on the replay. The confusion these guys may of had is the super-imposed clock in the bottom left corner which shows the shot to be good. This is not the game clock though. Again, since they probably have little or no experience using replay, they may not be aware that the timer in the corner is not the actual game time, but added by the tv coverage.

[SamG]

Originally Posted by APG

It's also possible they looked at the TV clock instead of looking at the LED lights/game clock and based their decision off of that.

APG, I apologize for (almost) everything I said in the other thread. I honestly didn't know there was that much of a discrepancy between clocks in an arena.

FWIW, I know TV shoots the scoreboard so they can make sure they have the score right. I can see someone thinking "why set up the shot clock camera, the clock's on the scoreboard?" for a HS game. Not that I do a lot of games, but I will advocate for using the clock above the backboard for any games I work.

[bainsey]

Anyone know how many states have adopted the NFHS instant replay rule in situtations like these?

[APG]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

??? Not good. OK. But "Not even close"? I beg to differ. Razor thin in real time...and in slow mo replay.

In real time, can see why they'd have counted it (I didn't when I first saw it but that's beside the point). On replay? It wasn't even close...not even a little bit (which is what I'm assuming SCal was referring to).

Originally Posted by SamG

APG, I apologize for (almost) everything I said in the other thread. I honestly didn't know there was that much of a discrepancy between clocks in an arena.

FWIW, I know TV shoots the scoreboard so they can make sure they have the score right. I can see someone thinking "why set up the shot clock camera, the clock's on the scoreboard?" for a HS game. Not that I do a lot of games, but I will advocate for using the clock above the backboard for any games I work.

No need to apologize.