My First Ejection

[Andy]

Originally Posted by D-League

...After that start though, you could have heard crickets on that court....

Right there tells me that the T's did their job....

[BayStateRef]

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Originally Posted by D-League

...After that start though, you could have heard crickets on that court....

Originally Posted by Andy

Right there tells me that the T's did their job....

A couple of years ago I was called at the last minute to officiate the finals of a men's league...where I had not worked all year. My partner had been officiating the league every week and was "way too familiar" with the players and their trash talk.

After running into a legal screen, one defender screamed something about "the eff-in pick." I gave him a technical...and he told me he was not talking to me but to his teammate. He said "Call out the eff-in pick." No matter...he gets the T either way.

Bottom line...not one problem the rest of the game. The league director was stunned. He said he had never seen them behave.

Game management matters...at every level.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

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A couple of years ago I was called at the last minute to officiate the finals of a men's league...where I had not worked all year. My partner had been officiating the league every week and was "way too familiar" with the players and their trash talk.

After running into a legal screen, one defender screamed something about "the eff-in pick." I gave him a technical...and he told me he was not talking to me but to his teammate. He said "Call out the eff-in pick." No matter...he gets the T either way.

Bottom line...not one problem the rest of the game. The league director was stunned. He said he had never seen them behave.

Game management matters...at every level.

Not saying your T wasn't warranted...but in a men's rec league, if one were to say "call out the eff-in pick" I wouldn't even bat an eye to that (assuming no directives given).

Now what I gather from your description is the player was pissed off about the legality of the screen, said something, then tried to come up with a weak explanation for what he said.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by APG

Not saying your T wasn't warranted...but in a men's rec league, if one were to say "call out the eff-in pick" I wouldn't even bat an eye to that (assuming no directives given).

Now what I gather from your description is the player was pissed off about the legality of the screen, said something, then tried to come up with a weak explanation for what he said.

I agree, but I'll add that if it's hard to tell whom the player is screaming at, I'm defaulting to the T.

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by Andy

Right there tells me that the T's did their job....

Originally Posted by Adam

I agree, but I'll add that if it's hard to tell whom the player is screaming at, I'm defaulting to the T.

I thought he was yelling at me that it was an illegal screen. He told me after I called the T that he was yelling at his teammates and told me what he said (and I believed him). Even if I clearly heard everything the first time, I would have called the T. This was a full roar for everyone in the gym to hear.

I work another men's league regularly. We don't allow that word at all. The players know it...and have accepted it. It creates a better environment to play basketball.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

I thought he was yelling at me that it was an illegal screen. He told me after I called the T that he was yelling at his teammates and told me what he said (and I believed him). Even if I clearly heard everything the first time, I would have called the T. This was a full roar for everyone in the gym to hear.

I work another men's league regularly. We don't allow that word at all. The players know it...and have accepted it. It creates a better environment to play basketball.

If that's the league's directive, then by all means, you're doing the right thing. I would dispute the point that penalizing this talk amongst teammates makes for a better environment...as least as far as it relates to me and my duties. But that's just my opinion.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by APG

If that's the league's directive, then by all means, you're doing the right thing. I would dispute the point that penalizing this talk amongst teammates makes for a better environment...as least as far as it relates to me and my duties. But that's just my opinion.

I don't know. Zero tolerance isn't my favorite thing, but it sure makes administration easier.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

I thought he was yelling at me that it was an illegal screen. He told me after I called the T that he was yelling at his teammates and told me what he said (and I believed him). Even if I clearly heard everything the first time, I would have called the T. This was a full roar for everyone in the gym to hear.

I work another men's league regularly. We don't allow that word at all. The players know it...and have accepted it. It creates a better environment to play basketball.

I don't work a lot of men's leagues anymore (2 or 3 games a year), and I would call them as APG suggested. That said, I would personally prefer a league like yours. The expectations are already established.