Duke/VT Kick?

[Triad zebra]

9:25 1st. Duke player on the floor and pulls the ball toward himself with his feet. I've called this Violation 4-5 times this year in V Games. Yet time and time again I see the D1 guys passing on this and it ultimately becomes a Jump Ball. Am I missing something?

[Camron Rust]

Nope, you're not missing anything. They are.

[kk13]

I think they missed a push which is why the Duke player was on the floor in the first place!

[JetMetFan]

I hope to post it whenever I get home but I just watched it and...wow. Why didn't he just dribble the ball with his feet, too?

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I hope to post it whenever I get home but I just watched it and...wow. Why didn't he just dribble the ball with his feet, too?

He would if this were soccer!

[Triad zebra]

I can envision that same play happening tonight and I call kick. Coach says "That's not a kick it happened last night in Duke game and it was a no call"
Sorry Coach I'm not a D1 official

[letemplay]

Coach K has his standard answer when asked why other teams and programs have so much envy or dislike of Duke, by saying "well, we've won so much", to which I say, "no you keep getting questionable calls". Besides the kick in the OP, I offer:

1) PCF on VT player at about 9:20 first half

2) About 3 min later in a very similar play on other end, block on VT

Now, obviously this had nothing to do with the games outcome (Duke would have been better off staying in Durham and having an intersquad scrimmage), and I may very well be wrong on these, but with only one replay via tv after each play, it sure looked bad. I have not looked back at it this morning, and cannot post a video, but perhaps if JMF is finding the possible foot violation, he can get these "kicks" too

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Triad zebra

I can envision that same play happening tonight and I call kick. Coach says "That's not a kick it happened last night in Duke game and it was a no call"
Sorry Coach I'm not a D1 official

I have watched games at the HS level where that was not called. Actually I see it not called often in games I am not associated with at all. Again, let us not act like HS officials are so competent and pure.

Peace

[scrounge]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Coach K has his standard answer when asked why other teams and programs have so much envy or dislike of Duke, by saying "well, we've won so much", to which I say, "no you keep getting questionable calls". Besides the kick in the OP, I offer:

1) PCF on VT player at about 9:20 first half

2) About 3 min later in a very similar play on other end, block on VT

Now, obviously this had nothing to do with the games outcome (Duke would have been better off staying in Durham and having an intersquad scrimmage), and I may very well be wrong on these, but with only one replay via tv after each play, it sure looked bad. I have not looked back at it this morning, and cannot post a video, but perhaps if JMF is finding the possible foot violation, he can get these "kicks" too

So are you saying that Duke over time has benefited from some active conspiracy to give them favorable calls? That's ridiculous and ludicrous on its face. I think it's just people don't like Duke and remember the calls that go for them - justified or not - and conveniently don't remember or even acknowledge the calls that go against them.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Coach K has his standard answer when asked why other teams and programs have so much envy or dislike of Duke, by saying "well, we've won so much", to which I say, "no you keep getting questionable calls". Besides the kick in the OP, I offer:

1) PCF on VT player at about 9:20 first half

2) About 3 min later in a very similar play on other end, block on VT

Now, obviously this had nothing to do with the games outcome (Duke would have been better off staying in Durham and having an intersquad scrimmage), and I may very well be wrong on these, but with only one replay via tv after each play, it sure looked bad. I have not looked back at it this morning, and cannot post a video, but perhaps if JMF is finding the possible foot violation, he can get these "kicks" too

So 3 calls that went their way in a 32 point blow out are indicative that all of Duke's success over the years is the result of favorable officiating?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by scrounge

So are you saying that Duke over time has benefited from some active conspiracy to give them favorable calls? That's ridiculous and ludicrous on its face. I think it's just people don't like Duke and remember the calls that go for them - justified or not - and conveniently don't remember or even acknowledge the calls that go against them.

Not a Duke fan and I feel +1000

Peace

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

So 3 calls that went their way in a 32 point blow out are indicative that all of Duke's success over the years is the result of favorable officiating?

NO, not at all...I see Duke's success due to they are generally really good, with very good players and coaches. A little overrated nationally usually, but an outstanding program. I didnt use the word "conspiracy", and I am not thinking along those lines, never have. I just want to see the plays again. If they turn out like I'm saying, it's only fodder for those that will say: Well, that's Duke.

[APG]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Coach K has his standard answer when asked why other teams and programs have so much envy or dislike of Duke, by saying "well, we've won so much", to which I say, "no you keep getting questionable calls".

Originally Posted by letemplay

NO, not at all...I see Duke's success due to they are generally really good, with very good players and coaches. A little overrated nationally usually, but an outstanding program. I didnt use the word "conspiracy", and I am not thinking along those lines, never have. I just want to see the plays again. If they turn out like I'm saying, it's only fodder for those that will say: Well, that's Duke.

For a guy that wasn't using the word "conspiracy,' your post looks, smells, and acts as one. If you have questions about plays, talk about the plays...don't opine about your perceptions of one team/player always "getting questionable calls."

[ronny mulkey]

Originally Posted by letemplay

NO, not at all...I see Duke's success due to they are generally really good, with very good players and coaches. A little overrated nationally usually, but an outstanding program. I didnt use the word "conspiracy", and I am not thinking along those lines, never have. I just want to see the plays again. If they turn out like I'm saying, it's only fodder for those that will say: Well, that's Duke.

Letemplay,

Go get them. I think you are welcome to your opinion. When I see them play my beloved Yellow Jackets, they get every call. Phuch Duke!

[Welpe]

Enough questioning the integrity of officials.