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Old Sun Feb 17, 2013, 11:36pm
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I see nothing

to indicate this is a FF1 or FF2. I see contact which occurs because the defensive player is moving into the path of the offensive player, as the offensive player turns to face up court. Given the location of the ball when he catches it, and the position of both players, I think we have nothing.

I think the NCAA has gone too far with the head contact reviews, and they still are not called consistently. In one game that would be nothing. This time it's called a FF1 and in another game it might be a FF2.

The other issue I have with the repeated delays is they break the flow of the game.

I recall a Michigan game a few weeks back where two players were going up for a rebound, and one player jumped diagonally into the elbow of the other player. The play continued and the officials stopped the play to review two things. Was the ensuing basket a 2 pt or 3 pt basket, and was there intentional contact above the head with the elbow. The problem was both were pretty clear. Yes a 3pt basket and not even close to being an elbowing issue.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:14am
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to indicate this is a FF1 or FF2. I see contact which occurs because the defensive player is moving into the path of the offensive player, as the offensive player turns to face up court. Given the location of the ball when he catches it, and the position of both players, I think we have nothing.

I think the NCAA has gone too far with the head contact reviews, and they still are not called consistently. In one game that would be nothing. This time it's called a FF1 and in another game it might be a FF2.

The other issue I have with the repeated delays is they break the flow of the game.

I recall a Michigan game a few weeks back where two players were going up for a rebound, and one player jumped diagonally into the elbow of the other player. The play continued and the officials stopped the play to review two things. Was the ensuing basket a 2 pt or 3 pt basket, and was there intentional contact above the head with the elbow. The problem was both were pretty clear. Yes a 3pt basket and not even close to being an elbowing issue.


In any NCAA-M game this play would have been reviewed, either by the officials decision, or by request of a coach. After review, this play would not ever be no-called, in NCAA-M it will always be a minimum FF1.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:47am
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I think the NCAA has gone too far with the head contact reviews, and they still are not called consistently. In one game that would be nothing. This time it's called a FF1 and in another game it might be a FF2.

The other issue I have with the repeated delays is they break the flow of the game.
So...you'd prefer players get popped in the face with elbows and have nothing called? The kids at the NCAA level (M & W) move quickly and sometimes there's contact that's missed. If there's a way to check it, why not? If the rule causes kids to keep their elbows down and saves someone from a concussion, it's worth it.

Regarding 2s vs. 3s: I think those reviews may happen a bit too often as well but for the sake of getting things right sacrificing a minute or two is worth it.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:04am
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So...you'd prefer players get popped in the face with elbows and have nothing called? The kids at the NCAA level (M & W) move quickly and sometimes there's contact that's missed. If there's a way to check it, why not? If the rule causes kids to keep their elbows down and saves someone from a concussion, it's worth it.

Regarding 2s vs. 3s: I think those reviews may happen a bit too often as well but for the sake of getting things right sacrificing a minute or two is worth it.
+1

It's only a problem for fans. I have a hunch that the coaches and players, overall, like the new process.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:01am
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Correct decision of FF1 upon monitor review.
Live the play was difficult because of the angle the official had towards the players and the fact that the second elbow was the one which contacted the defender's throat. Had it been the lead arm, I believe that the C has an easy whistle, but after the left arm passes through and then the ball, it is hard for the official to have a look at the trailing arm. The ball is probably in the way.
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