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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:31am
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...As I said, well over 90% of my partners wait til the ball comes below the FT line and that's what I was expecting. Live and learn...
If you have pressing action high, the old C, new T should initiate the rotation. Is that what happened? That's pretty standard.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:48am
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If you have pressing action high, the old C, new T should initiate the rotation. Is that what happened? That's pretty standard.
You're right, I meant to say rotating.

With most of the other officials I worked with all year, we worked trail sideline to sideline and kept the C where they were if the ball was above the FT line. Trail would come to mid court to see the action.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:52am
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You're right, I meant to say rotating.

With most of the other officials I worked with all year, we worked trail sideline to sideline and kept the C where they were if the ball was above the FT line. Trail would come to mid court to see the action.
That's a wide coverage area for T. What's the thought process?
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:54am
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That's a wide coverage area for T. What's the thought process?
Not to mention real bad positioning if there's a steal and fast break...with the T in the middle of the action.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:23am
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That's a wide coverage area for T. What's the thought process?
Just what we have done for about 7 or 8 years. I would say it comes from working 2 man for years, T has sideline to sideline in 2 man.

As I have said before, we have 52 officials in the association, I would say about half are over 40, 1/3 over 50. I am 57, but I started refereeing 12 years ago. Most of the older officials have refereed for over 20 years. Most have never gone to camps, I have not. I would say we have about 7 or 8 guys that have gone to camps and they do college also.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:20pm
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Just what we have done for about 7 or 8 years. I would say it comes from working 2 man for years, T has sideline to sideline in 2 man.

As I have said before, we have 52 officials in the association, I would say about half are over 40, 1/3 over 50. I am 57, but I started refereeing 12 years ago. Most of the older officials have refereed for over 20 years. Most have never gone to camps, I have not. I would say we have about 7 or 8 guys that have gone to camps and they do college also.
Forgive me if I'm being rude, but that's horrible court coverage -- you're taking one advantage of having 3 officials and throwing it away.

It would be better in that situation if the C would initiate a rotation, pulling the L across the lane -- it gives the new T the ball-handler on his own side of the court (and allows him to step out to get a better position on the floor) and allows the L to officiate the post players that will likely start posting up on that side.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:58pm
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Just what we have done for about 7 or 8 years. I would say it comes from working 2 man for years, T has sideline to sideline in 2 man.

As I have said before, we have 52 officials in the association, I would say about half are over 40, 1/3 over 50. I am 57, but I started refereeing 12 years ago. Most of the older officials have refereed for over 20 years. Most have never gone to camps, I have not. I would say we have about 7 or 8 guys that have gone to camps and they do college also.
It really seems to me you're short changing the idea of a three person game. What exactly is your C's coverage area, then?
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:14pm
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It really seems to me you're short changing the idea of a three person game. What exactly is your C's coverage area, then?
Not much according to most of my partners.

Watch for off ball stuff in the lane area, but only half of the lane. And rebound responsibilities.

This is a good thread for me to learn from.
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Have to agree with most of the others here...seems like your group is missing the point of having the third official out there and asking way too little of the C.

In terms of your initial comments about Pre-game conferences...any time you are uncomfortable about the Pre-game, just ask some question. Things like:

Hey, had this weird situation last week. How do we want to handle it if....

Or

What do we want to do tonight if there is a lot of trapping in the backcourt?

You can get a lot accomplished in the Pre-game simply by asking questions.
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Just what we have done for about 7 or 8 years. I would say it comes from working 2 man for years, T has sideline to sideline in 2 man.

As I have said before, we have 52 officials in the association, I would say about half are over 40, 1/3 over 50. I am 57, but I started refereeing 12 years ago. Most of the older officials have refereed for over 20 years. Most have never gone to camps, I have not. I would say we have about 7 or 8 guys that have gone to camps and they do college also.
You guys cover schools in West Virginia and Maryland? Mike Eades, Ted Valentine, and Al Battista would not be happy to hear this about your 3-man philosophies.
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