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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:31pm
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Is it still the by the book mechanic to use the hand behind the head on PC fouls in NF?
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:31pm
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:39pm
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Is it still the by the book mechanic to use the hand behind the head on PC fouls in NF?
And it's still used more on the NCAA-Men's side than the punch is.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:46pm
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And it's still used more on the NCAA-Men's side than the punch is.
That's because behind the head is still the official rule book PC signal for NCAAM. The punch is the rule book signal for NCAAW.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:50pm
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Clear undercut by the defender on the shot.

Second part is a charge at all levels except the NBA.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:04pm
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Second part is a charge at all levels except the NBA.
Well since you said it, what is the NBA rule?
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:18pm
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Well since you said it, what is the NBA rule?

A defender must allow an opponent who receives a pass outside the lower defensive box the opportunity to stop and/or change direction.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:19pm
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Player Control. I can see the no call on the shot.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 08:29pm
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You gotta protect airborne shooters, especially on this play where the undercut came from behind.o

Easy PC foul. Nothing wrong with the mechanic.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 08:33pm
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Player Control. I can see the no call on the shot.
Care to expound on that (being able to see a no call on the shot)? That's a clear undercut IMO...you have to have a whistle on that.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2013, 08:44pm
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It looks like a foul on the shot, but a lot of acting too. Players tend to throw themselves out as if they were killed. But I have no problem with the PC foul at all.

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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:43am
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Player Control. I can see the no call on the shot.
I'm a Michigan fan, so I am biased on UM-MSU comments, but.

Burke got away with one on the shot. That was a very clear undercut that should have been called. The officials missed that one. The charge was a very clear call as well. I actually slowed the video down and Appling was set while Burke took two steps into him. I would say that would be a charge at every level, including the NBA. Burke had time to stop. You can't penalize a defender because the offensive player wasn't looking when you give him to steps before the contact.
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:57am
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I'm a Michigan fan, so I am biased on UM-MSU comments, but.

Burke got away with one on the shot. That was a very clear undercut that should have been called. The officials missed that one. The charge was a very clear call as well. I actually slowed the video down and Appling was set while Burke took two steps into him. I would say that would be a charge at every level, including the NBA. Burke had time to stop. You can't penalize a defender because the offensive player wasn't looking when you give him to steps before the contact.
The NBA considers this type of play a cheap tactic and as such is not a legal position. A bang bang play like this in the NBA is a blocking foul.
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