Offensive foul / basket counts?

[JRutledge]

Ram,

With all due respect, that is the reason people are questioning your knowledge of the game. And yes correct terminology matters. And when you are asking rules questions, it is hard to know what you mean when you are using totally off the wall comments that might be used by commentators. And I expect coaches to know the rules of the game that they are directly involved in. It is sad that they often do not and it makes our job harder when we deal with coaches using terminology that it not correct or argues they know the rule and use completely incorrect or confusing information. I am sure if you were on electrical forum and used teams that were incorrect, while claiming you work as an electrician, I bet people would be concerned if you used incorrect language or examples. We have a lot of people that come here claiming to know things and when pressed clearly do not know as much as they say they do about the situations they were involved in or witnessed.

Peace

[ram]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Ram,

With all due respect, that is the reason people are questioning your knowledge of the game. And yes correct terminology matters. And when you are asking rules questions, it is hard to know what you mean when you are using totally off the wall comments that might be used by commentators. And I expect coaches to know the rules of the game that they are directly involved in. It is sad that they often do not and it makes our job harder when we deal with coaches using terminology that it not correct or argues they know the rule and use completely incorrect or confusing information. I am sure if you were on electrical forum and used teams that were incorrect, while claiming you work as an electrician, I bet people would be concerned if you used incorrect language or examples. We have a lot of people that come here claiming to know things and when pressed clearly do not know as much as they say they do about the situations they were involved in or witnessed.

Peace

I apreciate the education. That's why I came here in the first place.
I agree wholeheartedly that terminoligy matters and I should learn the correct terminology. No reason to be rude, though. And I never claimed to know anything. Plenty of people will attest to that.

I said "I looked it up" without even thinking about it. I'm just trying to learn.

Besides, I'm just a coach and we all know coaches don't know what they're talking about.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ram

I apreciate the education. That's why I came here in the first place.
I agree wholeheartedly that terminoligy matters and I should learn the correct terminology. No reason to be rude, though. And I never claimed to know anything. Plenty of people will attest to that.

I said "I looked it up" without even thinking about it. I'm just trying to learn.

Besides, I'm just a coach and we all know coaches don't know what they're talking about.

I think people are way to sensitive these days. People do not like to be told direct answers anymore and when someone tells them what they are thinking they call them rude. He did not call you a name or say you were stupid, just mostly pointing out your lack of knowledge based on the usage of your terminology, which is confusing to what really happened. We do not even know a lot of stuff by what you said in the story. Even if the official gave a signal, that does not mean that is what was ultimately called. And you have not yet told us what or if the officials explained to you what they discussed to count the basket. Those are very legitimate questions and that is all anyone here was trying to figure out through the bad terminology.

Peace

[Adam]

Frankly, I agree that letemplay was out of line with that particular comment, but I believe he retracted after further discussion.

[APG]

Just for completeness sake, there's no such terminology as an player control foul in the NBA...what would be a player control foul is termed an offensive foul. So I'm going to assume the OP is coaching under a NBA rule set.

[ram]

Originally Posted by APG

So I'm going to assume the OP is coaching under a NBA rule set.

Not quite. The Wizards haven't called yet.

And FWIW, I don't watch the NBA, just NCAA.