stating the foul count

[just another ref]

I know this guy pretty well and know him to be reasonable,
wouldn't have said it to just anybody.

[Pantherdreams]

Each of these is a "you've got to be there situation."

The coach could be implying they are getting screwed or they could be trying to make a genuine point about something they are seeing or not seeing the same as you and would like clarification.

Ie. Coach A - " The fouls are 10-3. I know its a road game guys, but you haven't got to prove it." - Automatic whack.

Coach B - " The fouls are 5-1." Me - We just call what we are seeing. (On the lookout for ABS issues now.

Coach C - "The fouls are 7 - 2. I get that we're reaching in I'll talk to my kids, but I'ld like our cutters to get the same protection of movement their Pg is getting. I don't feel like we're the more physical team." Me - I hear you. If I see it I'll call it. (no worries we're moving on)

Not to mention Coaches d-zz. This completely depends on the coaches tone, approach and percieved intent.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If a coach says something to me about foul counts, that is when I am a smartazz. I will either say, "So" or "Stop fouling." But I will not automatically call a T for this.

Peace

...and if the score is in favor of the Coach complaining..."do you want the score switched also?"

[ballgame99]

Man, I missed a big time opportunity to T a coach up this weekend then... "the fouls are 11 to 3, you've got to be kidding me!" Nevermind her team was full-court pressing and fouling like crazy while the other team was in a 2-3 zone... She said it multiple times, then her parrot parents started chirping about it too.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...and if the score is in favor of the Coach complaining..."do you want the score switched also?"

Funny thing happen in a game I worked last year. We went in the first half and did not call a single foul on the visiting team for a half. I believe the foul count was 7-0 at half time. Then the very first foul we called against the team in the second half, I said to the coach after he made an issue out of this, "We did not call a single foul the entire first half, you really should not be complaining about that call." He kind of shut up after that. And in the first half he had almost a 20 point lead.

Peace

[Rob1968]

"I feel good about everything we've called, Coach."
Then, if the Coach mentions something specific - "Well, they're bumping our post players," or "They're chucking our guys when we try to cross the paint." I respond, "We'll take a look, Coach. Thanks."
Usually, there's no response, and we go from there.

[Da Official]

Reminds me of a game 2 years ago...

Working a JV game at a new high school that only had 9th/10th graders (but had Varsity Head Coaches as they built the program).

Home team is winning by 10 in the 3rd quarter. I am table side during transition (after a foul on her team) and hear the coach ask the scorekeeper "What's the foul count?". I'm like ok I see where this is going.

The table tells her like 5-1. She says "No, the foul count for the entire game?"

I hadn't heard that request before....

I say "Coach, don't go there..."

I run to the other end and then as I'm coming back she yells out "The foul count is 15-5".

WHACK

I report the Technical...Home Coach says nothing and takes her seat.

Asst Coach asks "Why did he give you a T?"

HC says sheepishly "Because I told him the foul count was 15-5..."

Nothing else from the HC that night and home team won by 15...

(Some of you may question the T but she was disrespectful to the other crew members and inciting the fans prior to this. I was the U2.)

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Da Official

I say "Coach, don't go there..."

I run to the other end and then as I'm coming back she yells out "The foul count is 15-5".

WHACK

(Some of you may question the T but she was disrespectful to the other crew members and inciting the fans prior to this. I was the U2.)

I CERTAINLY don't question this T. You tried to head it off and warn her.

She DECIDED to commit the technical foul. She begged for it. Issue it.

[Adam]

Good T, IMO.

[SE Minnestoa Re]

A couple of my favorites--

Coach: "Call it both ways" when the foul count is 10-4 with more on the other team.

A coach was once quoted: "The trouble with officials is they don't care who wins"

[ballgame99]

Would it be out of line to respond with "Coach, are you suggesting that I care who wins this game? Because I can promise you that I don't". I've thought that in my head many times...

[maven]

Originally Posted by SE Minnestoa Re

A coach was once quoted: "The trouble with officials is they don't care who wins"

As the software nerds say: "It's not a bug, it's a feature!"

[Adam]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Would it be out of line to respond with "Coach, are you suggesting that I care who wins this game? Because I can promise you that I don't". I've thought that in my head many times...

Too much. I don't discuss foul count, and a coach who brings it up more than once shuts down communication.

[#olderthanilook]

Coach (in a whiney voice): "You've called 8 fouls on us and only 2 on them! You can't tell me they aren't fouling, too."
Me (in my head): "Not nearly as much as your team."
Me: "Which foul to you have a question about, coach?"
Coach: "I just don't know how we have so many more than they do."
Me: "We're moving on coach. If you have questions about a specific play, we are happy to answer when we can." (As I get away from him)

This usually ends the whining.

Yes, I can be very gracious. Sometimes, not so much. Depends on the actions/words of the coach leading to that exchange.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Coach (in a whiney voice): "You've called 8 fouls on us and only 2 on them! You can't tell me they aren't fouling, too."
Me (in my head): "Not nearly as much as your team."
Me: "Which foul to you have a question about, coach?"
Coach: "I just don't know how we have so many more than they do."
Me: "We're moving on coach. If you have questions about a specific play, we are happy to answer when we can." (As I get away from him)

This usually ends the whining.

Yes, I can be very gracious. Sometimes, not so much. Depends on the actions/words of the coach leading to that exchange.

Maybe it's just me.... but from some of these threads, you guys seem to have a LOT more time hanging around by the coaches than I do. There's no way I typically have time for that long of an exchange. I have stuff to do, and very little of it requires me to be next to the coach.