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Old Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:01pm
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maybe another set of eyes may have caught that first one
Or if the lead wasn't ball watching....
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:41pm
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Or if the lead wasn't ball watching....
I'm not going to blame the new L for missing this one. It's a subtle elbow and they're working 2-person and he's getting into position.

The *second one*? I'm more likely to believe ball watching on that one. And still, things like an elbow are going to get missed. Hard to pass judgment other than, "he missed it."
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:47pm
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I'm not going to blame the new L for missing this one. It's a subtle elbow and they're working 2-person and he's getting into position.

The *second one*? I'm more likely to believe ball watching on that one. And still, things like an elbow are going to get missed. Hard to pass judgment other than, "he missed it."
He was not going to see the first one that well IMO. A center official might have seen the entire exchange and called accordingly. The second one clearly was missed and should not have been missed. Also not knowing what time of the game this happened also would add to my opinion as to the first action. This is what you get when you try to hire officials on the cheap.

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Old Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:52pm
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He was not going to see the first one that well IMO. A center official might have seen the entire exchange and called accordingly. The second one clearly was missed and should not have been missed. Also not knowing what time of the game this happened also would add to my opinion as to the first action. This is what you get when you try to hire officials on the cheap.

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Right. That's what I was referring to. Most quick elbows missed in 2-person games would've been caught with 3-official crews, IMO. But not all of them -- that's why the big boys go to the monitor.
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Just so we don't have to open another window...

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Old Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:08pm
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The first one was totally on the sly and hard to catch ... I can see how they missed it ... even with 3 officials she might get away with that one because either T or C will be on ball and you will need the off-ball official to catch it.

But the second one? No excuse! Lead should be watching those two players to begin with.

Here's a hint: Players do not just stop playing and put their face in their hands for no reason.
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:18pm
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My $0.02...This is a good example among other things - of why we need to get into position as soon as possible. I can't say how hard the new L was or was not running to get down court but when the second elbow came he had just reached the end line. Since there's no press just get there and be ready to accept whatever play is coming.

Obviously, watching the ball contributed to this as well since even if he wasn't at the end line he should've at least been looking at the post players because they'd already set up along the lane.
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