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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:38pm
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To answer the question posed by the title of the thread, I say it's a correctable error.

It's the awarding of an unmerited free throw, and you're still within the timeframe to wave it off.
Only IF the violation was call but not properly penalized.

Correctable errors do not related to violations/fouls that are uncalled, only ones that are called but are improperly penalized.

Not calling the violation to start with, even it it was seen, is not correctable. If it isn't called, it isn't called. Not correctable.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:26pm
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Only IF the violation was call but not properly penalized.

Correctable errors do not related to violations/fouls that are uncalled, only ones that are called but are improperly penalized.

Not calling the violation to start with, even it it was seen, is not correctable. If it isn't called, it isn't called. Not correctable.
So when can you decide to penalize this violation of ball not hitting the rim? Is this a time where coach says something you when are about to administer the replacement FT which should have been an AP throw in, can you get together and talk about it, change the ruling to what it should be and away we go? Can you as lead provide this information if T isn't paying attention or should L just call it if T misses it?

I think some people see an airball on a first free throw and just say, "no point next FT," when in actuality the whistle should sound and rule that it is a violation, if nothing else to avoid this situation.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:53pm
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So when can you decide to penalize this violation of ball not hitting the rim? Is this a time where coach says something you when are about to administer the replacement FT which should have been an AP throw in, can you get together and talk about it, change the ruling to what it should be and away we go? Can you as lead provide this information if T isn't paying attention or should L just call it if T misses it?

I think some people see an airball on a first free throw and just say, "no point next FT," when in actuality the whistle should sound and rule that it is a violation, if nothing else to avoid this situation.
If it's obvious to you as lead, if there is no doubt it missed, call it. But worst case scenario is to call this from the lead but, "OOPS! It barely touched the rim."

As far as time, anytime before the ball is made live for the next play, whether it's a throw-in or another free throw, it's okay to get together and sort out the correct ruling.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:59pm
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So when can you decide to penalize this violation of ball not hitting the rim? Is this a time where coach says something you when are about to administer the replacement FT which should have been an AP throw in, can you get together and talk about it, change the ruling to what it should be and away we go? Can you as lead provide this information if T isn't paying attention or should L just call it if T misses it?

I think some people see an airball on a first free throw and just say, "no point next FT," when in actuality the whistle should sound and rule that it is a violation, if nothing else to avoid this situation.
Once the shot is taken, it is too late in this case. You can't go back in time and call a violation, even if it was a rule oversight that ultimately let to an impact on the score.
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:50am
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Once the shot is taken, it is too late in this case. You can't go back in time and call a violation, even if it was a rule oversight that ultimately let to an impact on the score.
I agree. Just using common sense I would think if you were going to call the double violation it should happen before you administer the next free throw.
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