Scorer's Table

[jrdavidson]

Is it a technical foul if a player approaches the score table during the game to see how many fouls they have?

[just another ref]

Theoretically, yes, but never seen it called.

This applies to a lot of things.

[OKREF]

I don't think I would ever give a kid T for this.

[JRutledge]

Better question is how are we (officials) going to know that is the reason for a player going to the table? For all we know they could be going for a possible substitution and then the coach retracts the opportunity.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by jrdavidson

Is it a technical foul if a player approaches the score table during the game to see how many fouls they have?

Player, substitute, or bench personnel?

[BillyMac]

This thread brings up a few questions in my mind. During the game, other than the head coach approaching the table to question some type of correctable error, bookkeeping error, possession arrow error, etc. who, other than a substitute, may approach the table? Head coach for the errors mentioned here, but who else can approach, and under what conditions? Can a head coach approach the table to inquire about team fouls, or personnel fouls? If not, who can? Assistant coach?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

This thread brings up a few questions in my mind. During the game, other than the head coach approaching the table to question some type of correctable error, bookkeeping error, possession arrow error, etc. who, other than a substitute, may approach the table? Head coach for the errors mentioned here, but who else can approach, and under what conditions? Can a head coach approach the table to inquire about team fouls, or personnel fouls? If not, who can? Assistant coach?

By rule, 10.5.1A. But, you'll need to earn your $87 (or whatever) paycheck by interpeting "etc."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

10.5.1A.

10.5.1 SITUATION A: The coach of Team A leaves the bench area and goes to
the table to seek information other than a correctable error: (a) during a time-out;
or (b) during the intermission between the first and second quarters. RULING: A
technical foul is charged directly to the coach in both (a) and (b) resulting in the
loss of coaching-box privileges. If this information is required, it must be secured
by a manager or statistician, etc., when the clock is stopped and the ball is dead.
A coach is not permitted at the table for this purpose. To allow exceptions would
open the door for exploitation and would result in situations which could not be
enforced consistently.

10.5.1 SITUATION B: The coach of Team B rises and accompanies B6 to the
table to make sure the substitute reports properly. RULING: This is a technical
foul charged directly to the coach resulting in the loss of coaching-box privileges.
The coach is not allowed to be off the bench or out of the optional coaching box
for this purpose.

[zm1283]

We had a HC last week go to the table in the third quarter to inquire about the team foul count for the entire game from the scorekeeper. This ended up earning him a technical after he announced it to my partner, who was the Trail, after the first of two free throws on the other end of the court. He ended up getting his second technical from me after the next free throw and early trip to the showers after he refused to comply with the seatbelt rule, told us we were terrible, and dismissively waved me off. That was a first for me.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

This thread brings up a few questions in my mind. During the game, other than the head coach approaching the table to question some type of correctable error, bookkeeping error, possession arrow error, etc. who, other than a substitute, may approach the table? Head coach for the errors mentioned here, but who else can approach, and under what conditions? Can a head coach approach the table to inquire about team fouls, or personnel fouls? If not, who can? Assistant coach?

Are team personnel required to remain seated on the bench where you officiate? if so, that pretty much answers your question.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Are team personnel required to remain seated on the bench where you officiate? if so, that pretty much answers your question.

Are "a manager or statistician, etc." team personnel?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Are "a manager or statistician, etc." team personnel?

The case play Bob previously listed, prior to my reply, specifically addresses your question.

[BktBallRef]

Someone posted this earlier.

Are team personnel required to remain seated on the bench where you officiate? If so, that pretty much answers your question.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Someone posted this earlier. Are team personnel required to remain seated on the bench where you officiate? If so, that pretty much answers your question.

Thus:

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Nobody.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Are team personnel required to remain seated on the bench where you officiate?

I'm sure that you meant to say bench personnel. I can only find one reference to team personnel in the NFHS rulebook on the NCAA/NFHS differences chart. Here in Connecticut, some statisticians (rebounds, assists, etc.) sit in the bleachers, not on the bench.

As team personnel, but not bench personnel, maybe they can approach the table regarding fouls during a running clock, live ball?