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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:25am
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Are team personnel required to remain seated on the bench where you officiate? if so, that pretty much answers your question.
Are "a manager or statistician, etc." team personnel?
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:43am
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Are "a manager or statistician, etc." team personnel?
The case play Bob previously listed, prior to my reply, specifically addresses your question.
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:00am
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The case play Bob previously listed, prior to my reply, specifically addresses your question.
NFHS 4-34: Bench personnel are all individuals who are part of or affiliated with a team, including, but not limited to: substitutes, coaches, manager(s) and statistician(s).

NFHS 10-4: The head coach is responsible for his/her own conduct and behavior, as well as substitutes, disqualified team members and all other bench personnel. Bench
personnel, including the head coach, shall not: Stand at the team bench while the clock is running or is stopped, and must remain seated, except: c. During a charged time-out, as in 5-11, or the intermission between quarters and extra periods.

It appears that we don't allow coaches, both head coaches, and assistant coaches, to approach the table to inquire about team fouls, or personal fouls. The case play states that a manager or a statistician may approach, but the rule states that they must remain seated except during a timeout, or intermission.

While the game is in progress, while the clock is running, who may approach the table to inquire about team fouls, or personal fouls?

Nobody? I think that's the answer?
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Someone posted this earlier.

Are team personnel required to remain seated on the bench where you officiate? If so, that pretty much answers your question.
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Someone posted this earlier. Are team personnel required to remain seated on the bench where you officiate? If so, that pretty much answers your question.
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:04pm
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Are team personnel required to remain seated on the bench where you officiate?
I'm sure that you meant to say bench personnel. I can only find one reference to team personnel in the NFHS rulebook on the NCAA/NFHS differences chart. Here in Connecticut, some statisticians (rebounds, assists, etc.) sit in the bleachers, not on the bench.

As team personnel, but not bench personnel, maybe they can approach the table regarding fouls during a running clock, live ball?
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I'm sure that you meant to say bench personnel. I can only find one reference to team personnel in the NFHS rulebook on the NCAA/NFHS differences chart. Here in Connecticut, some statisticians (rebounds, assists, etc.) sit in the bleachers, not on the bench.

As team personnel, but not bench personnel, maybe they can approach the table regarding fouls during a running clock, live ball?
Since when is it our concern who the people in the stands are?

You're muddying the waters. This discussion is about bench personnel, can't we just stay on task?
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 04:08pm
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I'm sure that you meant to say bench personnel. I can only find one reference to team personnel in the NFHS rulebook on the NCAA/NFHS differences chart. Here in Connecticut, some statisticians (rebounds, assists, etc.) sit in the bleachers, not on the bench.

As team personnel, but not bench personnel, maybe they can approach the table regarding fouls during a running clock, live ball?
No, I meant exactly what I wrote. I don't care if the manager sits on the bench or one row behind, which is why I wrote team personnel. If you want to play semantics, feel free to but as BNR asked, can't you just stay on task?
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This discussion is about bench personnel.
Would you guys please make up your minds so that I can stay on task and not be distracted by rule, or nonrule, language.
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Would you guys please make up your minds so that I can stay on task and not be distracted by rule language.
Billy, the point is the only team personnel we care about are the ones on the bench. No one else matters to me.
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Old Sat Jan 26, 2013, 07:34pm
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Billy, the point is the only team personnel we care about are the ones on the bench. No one else matters to me.
Got it.
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