Scorer's Table

[zm1283]

We had a HC last week go to the table in the third quarter to inquire about the team foul count for the entire game from the scorekeeper. This ended up earning him a technical after he announced it to my partner, who was the Trail, after the first of two free throws on the other end of the court. He ended up getting his second technical from me after the next free throw and early trip to the showers after he refused to comply with the seatbelt rule, told us we were terrible, and dismissively waved me off. That was a first for me.

[Sharpshooternes]

Anybody have a problem with teams that set up the bench well beyond the coach's box so that it is right up against the table? Had this last night. Coach was standing up out of the box, leaning on the table. Opposing coach was complaining. Had a had an excellent game up until that point actually the funnest and best I have had all year. No complaining, good flow etc. There was only 2 minutes left in the game. I tried to be be diplomatic and asked him to help us out and get back in the box just before we were shooting FTs. I was going to give him until the end of the FTs before I T'd him up. As soon as the second FT was shot, I turned and looked and he was sitting on the "bench" which was the front row of the bleachers, right next to the scorers table. Thoughts?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Anybody have a problem with teams that set up the bench well beyond the coach's box so that it is right up against the table? Had this last night. Coach was standing up out of the box, leaning on the table. Opposing coach was complaining. Had a had an excellent game up until that point actually the funnest and best I have had all year. No complaining, good flow etc. There was only 2 minutes left in the game. I tried to be be diplomatic and asked him to help us out and get back in the box just before we were shooting FTs. I was going to give him until the end of the FTs before I T'd him up. As soon as the second FT was shot, I turned and looked and he was sitting on the "bench" which was the front row of the bleachers, right next to the scorers table. Thoughts?

I thought this wasn't a problem in HS games?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Anybody have a problem with teams that set up the bench well beyond the coach's box so that it is right up against the table? Had this last night. Coach was standing up out of the box, leaning on the table. Opposing coach was complaining. Had a had an excellent game up until that point actually the funnest and best I have had all year. No complaining, good flow etc. There was only 2 minutes left in the game. I tried to be be diplomatic and asked him to help us out and get back in the box just before we were shooting FTs. I was going to give him until the end of the FTs before I T'd him up. As soon as the second FT was shot, I turned and looked and he was sitting on the "bench" which was the front row of the bleachers, right next to the scorers table. Thoughts?

I've been known to move the first couple of chairs (on each side) to the far end so the bench begins at the 28' line.

Sometimes, if they're sitting on bleachers and expecially if the table isn't exactly centered or there's a stairway, etc, you have to adjust how strictly you'll enforce the rule (and about sitting in the box to start the game).

if it gets too bad, write a report to the state / governing body.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I've been known to move the first couple of chairs (on each side) to the far end so the bench begins at the 28' line.

Sometimes, if they're sitting on bleachers and expecially if the table isn't exactly centered or there's a stairway, etc, you have to adjust how strictly you'll enforce the rule (and about sitting in the box to start the game).

if it gets too bad, write a report to the state / governing body.

Like I said, wasn't too worried about it in this case because it was bleachers and not chairs, but when the coach was standing up and leaning on the table and opposing coach was complaining, then it became a problem.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Anybody have a problem with teams that set up the bench well beyond the coach's box so that it is right up against the table?

It makes no difference. If he's going to use the coaching box, then his seat on the bench MUST be within the coaching box. He cannot sit beside the table and roam back and forth between his seat and the box.

10.5.1 SITUATION C:

The coach of Team B sits on the opposite end of the bench from where the optional coaching box is located. The coach rises only when permitted by rule.
RULING: Legal. The coach is not required to use the optional coaching box even though it has been adopted by the state association. However, if the coach begins the game by sitting somewhere other than where the box is located, he/she may not use the box privileges any time during the game. The coach must begin the game in a position within the box if he/she wishes to stand when permitted under the optional coaching-box provisions.