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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:24am
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You need a new trainer.

(Or at least you need to clarify this with him/her)
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:27am
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When the ball is in the FRONTCOURT, the Center should not be calling a back court violation
When would you ever call a backcourt violation without the ball being in the frontcourt first?
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:05am
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In our group of officials, if the C has to start officiating "on ball" there should be an immediate rotation.
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Exactly. Unless the player shoots or drives to the basket and there's inadequate time to get across and in position.
This is how I pregame it too in 3-person, although with some people, it never happens. I will be the C and have an on-ball defender, and the Lead will be standing there with his hands in his pockets.
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:09am
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This is how I pregame it too in 3-person, although with some people, it never happens. I will be the C and have an on-ball defender, and the Lead will be standing there with his hands in his pockets.
Thus my 3-person mini-rant the other day...
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:35am
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We should not deal in absolutes in officiating.

As a general rule, the times where the C would have a backcourt violation are few, but there are several instances where it would be the case. What happens on a transition play where a player catches over halfcourt, attains frontcourt status and then dribbles backward? The trail will not be in position to determine a BC violation.

The second, is a flatout call of assistance. If you are 110% sure the trail misses it then you can get it. I caution you that if you have not seen the whole play often there could be a tip ball and so you really need to make sure it is a high-certainty call that everyone in the gym sees besides your partner.
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