Calling out a fellow official? Advice needed.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

If your association uses arbiter and allows blocks, go in and block him. In Utah we can block up to three individuals and no one says a thing becuase it is in the software

Best option, if available.

Otherwise, I'd heed Jeff's advice and tread lightly.

Perhaps calling your assignor and asking if he's hearing that you call too many phantom fouls might be a good place to start. Diplomacy will carry you farther sometimes.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Can't the assignor or person with assignor privilege override the block? That has been my experience with that software. I am sure you could block anyone or anything you like, but someone would be aware and still want to know why.

Peace

Not always. If you don't make a habit of it, they probably won't even notice. Not every assignor enables this feature, though.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

Not always. If you don't make a habit of it, they probably won't even notice. Not every assignor enables this feature, though.

True.

Peace

[icallfouls]

Post your video somewhere and let us judge for ourselves. No sense getting behind the wheel of the bus just yet. "don't drive angry"

There must be a reason he is calling JV games after a 30 year career?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by big jake

There must be a reason he is calling JV games after a 30 year career?

Colorado requires a minimum number of JV games to be eligible for the post season. There is literally no conclusion that you can gather from that information.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

Colorado requires a minimum number of JV games to be eligible for the post season. There is literally no conclusion that you can gather from that information.

You could if he is not from Colorado.

Peace

[Adam]

20 out of 21 seems excessive, on both sides. It honestly makes me wonder whether there were a few in his area where you were just quicker on the whistle, and at some point he figured you just wanted to do it yourself so he let you.

Hard to say without video.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You could if he is not from Colorado.

Peace

Not really. Unless Jakey knows where the OP is from.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

Not really. Unless Jakey knows where the OP is from.

In my state or area it could mean a couple of things. It could mean a guy is getting a pay check and has nothing to prove. Or it could mean he cannot get anything else and this is what he normally does during the season. I am sure that is similar is other areas but we will never know until that is clarified. And that would only be clarified if someone had worked there or works there now.

Peace

[ODog]

Originally Posted by Adam

Colorado requires a minimum number of JV games to be eligible for the post season.

That's interesting. What's the philosophy behind that? I'm genuinely curious.

To keep officials humble and reward guys willing to "take some for the team" perhaps?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ODog

That's interesting. What's the philosophy behind that? I'm genuinely curious.

To keep officials humble and reward guys willing to "take some for the team" perhaps?

Perhaps for newer, JV-only, officials to get the chance to work with some of the top officials a few times??? That would certainly be good for mentoring and training of newer officials.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Perhaps for newer, JV-only, officials to get the chance to work with some of the top officials a few times??? That would certainly be good for mentoring and training of newer officials.

We do that around here a few times a year. Our assignor likes us to get out and work with some of the newer officials, for the exact reasons you stated Camron.

A couple other reasons...

* heavy nights require more officials

* Sometimes the Varsity crew travels to a school and does the FROSH. or SOPH. game, usually in another gym, then the Varsity game. This saves the school mileage payment...our association pays the 3-Whistle crew doing both games ONE mileage payment. (The other crew doing the JV game and other lower level game get ONE mileage payment also.)

BTW...the one official that drives gets the $ for mileage and he is expected to buy snacks and beverages for the other two officials on the way home.

The varsity guys doing the FROSH./SOPH. games makes for some interesting dynamics.

Usually, the less experienced crew is doing the JV game.

[jTheUmp]

Around here, most of my games are doubleheaders. Depending on size of the school, you might get something like this:

9A/9B
9th/B-squad (10th grade)
B-squad/JV
JV/V

Most of the time, at the biggest schools, a game night will have B/JV/V games back-to-back-to-back. One crew will generally get the B/JV doubleheader at 4:30 and 6:00, and a different crew will get the 7:30 varsity game. The smaller schools will usually only have a JV/V doubleheader, and the same crew will handle both games.

I've even got one night in a couple of weeks where we have 4 officials covering 4 games like this:
Me and Partner #1 doing the JV game at 5:30
Partner #2 and New Guy doing the 5:30 freshman game.
Me, Parther #1, and Partner #2 doing the Varsity game at 7:00.

Back on topic though... I could've written the same post as you did about a game I had last season... it happens.

My advice: call/email your assigner. My assigner is very adamant that we call him first if there's a situation that he's going to be get called about from an AD... he wants to know our side of the story before he talks to the school. Phrase the conversation in a "hey, I'm wondering if you've gotten any feedback on my performance" style rather than a "That Guy's terrible" style.

[ronny mulkey]

This was a very physical game from the start, with alot of off the ball picks. Both teams fought hard to set screens and fight through them and rough

I'm not a big proponent of a 4th year guy picking and choosing his partners. Your assignor may have known that this guy doesn't call a lot a fouls and might have felt that you would help the crew.

I like it that you recognized potential problems and were trying to do all you could to keep the game under control. I would encourage you to continue calling any rough play no matter where it occurs on the court.