Calling out a fellow official? Advice needed.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by lads25

I can promise I am not exaggerating on the 20 of 21 foul calls. Have video. Nevertheless, I appreciate the advice that has been coming in....

You promote what you permit.....if you do not say anything to your assignor, the problem continues without improvement. He clearly cannot officiate at that level (or at least has no desire to work the game correctly). Talk to your assignor...move on....be ready to blow the whistle if you're assigned with him again.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

You promote what you permit.....if you do not say anything to your assignor, the problem continues without improvement. He clearly cannot officiate at that level (or at least has no desire to work the game correctly). Talk to your assignor...move on....be ready to blow the whistle if you're assigned with him again.

Huh? So if his partner called 20 of 21 then should he have gone to his assignor too?

So every time someone does not do something we do not like, we have to report them? Even if we are not in a position long to have our opinion respected?

Just keep in mind that when you tell an assignor/supervisor/boss about a partner, someone might do the same about you for some other silly reason.

I was just raised in the game to believe unless something was done very unprofessional or unethical you do not go running to people to tell on them. And this was not a professional issue, this was a judgment issue where maybe the partners were not on the same page. We also did not hear anything that suggest there could have been double whistles, communication as to who took a foul or other things that realistically happen. I would find it hard to believe that his partner did not have any whistles on these plays. And if he didn't, then there is a big problem IMO with calling fouls that someone else probably saw in their area.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by lads25

1) Do I contact my assignor and request we don't work together? (It's important to note he is a veteran with 30 years experience and I'm just in my 4th year of HS ball, but 16 years experience overall).

I would call the assignor and explain what happened. I would end it with, "I would rather not work with him again."

[ronny mulkey]

This was a very physical game from the start, with alot of off the ball picks. Both teams fought hard to set screens and fight through them and rough

I'm not a big proponent of a 4th year guy picking and choosing his partners. Your assignor may have known that this guy doesn't call a lot a fouls and might have felt that you would help the crew.

I like it that you recognized potential problems and were trying to do all you could to keep the game under control. I would encourage you to continue calling any rough play no matter where it occurs on the court.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by ronny mulkey

This was a very physical game from the start, with alot of off the ball picks. Both teams fought hard to set screens and fight through them and rough

I'm not a big proponent of a 4th year guy picking and choosing his partners. Your assignor may have known that this guy doesn't call a lot a fouls and might have felt that you would help the crew.

I like it that you recognized potential problems and were trying to do all you could to keep the game under control. I would encourage you to continue calling any rough play no matter where it occurs on the court.

Sometimes, there is a lot of ball watching which results in calling out of the primary. By watching some of the off ball shenanigans and calling it, you can prevent some of the other stuff from occurring. I am sure the truth is somewhere in between, but if a guy is swallowing his whistle, sometimes it is good to let him take some heat from time to time. The cardinal rule of "Be late. Be needed. Be right." certainly applies. So, does the GIGDGO principle as was mentioned earlier.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Here our game nights go as follows-
3-JV Girls
430-JV Boys
600-Varsity Girls
730-Varsity Boys
Everything here is done in two whistle with one crew handling JV and another crew coming in and handling Varsity.
Last Thursday we had an oddity in assignment of officials-Varsity only doubleheader (JV games moved to Monday at visiting schools request),three officials assigned-one working both games and the other two working 1 game each,a lady came in and worked the girls game then left and a guy came in for the guys game.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by lads25

...As referee, at halftime, I mentioned that we needed to establish control right from the start of the second half...


...I reiterated to my partner at the end of the 3rd quarter and a timeout early in the 4th quarter, that we needed to get control.

A question that has not yet been asked...

What was your partner's reaction to your "we need to get control" request?
That may give some more insight on how to advise you to react.