HC location at Start of game.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Adam

Smitty works in Texas, where coaches have a lot of control.

While this is absolutely true, I was inferring I would get grief from my assigner. And I was exaggerating a bit to prove the point. I would get a talking to for sure but probably wouldn't lose my status. I certainly might get the opportunity to travel more to the far, far outskirts of the area from that point on, though.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Smitty

While this is absolutely true, I was inferring I would get grief from my assigner. And I was exaggerating a bit to prove the point. I would get a talking to for sure but probably wouldn't lose my status. I certainly might get the opportunity to travel more to the far, far outskirts of the area from that point on, though.

It's nice not having to deal with a single assignor.

[Smitty]

Oh and I would likely never get to go back to the school where I enforced the "sitting in the right spot" rule as the coach would surely scratch me from their games. The coaches can do that. They also can scratch you from a district game if they have never seen you before. Last year I was scratched for a Friday night game on a Friday morning because the coaches didn't know who I was. (I had only joined the association the year before). It would have been my biggest game of the season. I was not happy that night.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Oh and I would likely never get to go back to the school where I enforced the "sitting in the right spot" rule as the coach would surely scratch me from their games. The coaches can do that. They also can scratch you from a district game if they have never seen you before. Last year I was scratched for a Friday night game on a Friday morning because the coaches didn't know who I was. (I had only joined the association the year before). It would have been my biggest game of the season. I was not happy that night.

Did you get paid for that game?

What a ridiculous system. God forbid you should ever call a technical foul on one of them.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Rich

Did you get paid for that game?

What a ridiculous system. God forbid you should ever call a technical foul on one of them.

I did not - I ended up assigned to a JV game somewhere as I recall. It was a bitter pill to swallow. Here in TX the coaches have so much power. It does make you feel like you need to coddle them a bit for just that reason. I have to admit, I have not called a single T on a varsity coach this season and I have at least 2 that I should have (a partner came in and got them). I am getting much better games this season and I would be lying if I didn't say it's in the back of my mind as I like these better games. This is an area I'm working on - I clearly haven't found my comfort zone yet.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I did not - I ended up assigned to a JV game somewhere as I recall. It was a bitter pill to swallow.

Unless you're on the coach's chosen list, then I guess it's a great system. Probably one reason why the system stays the way it is.

I'll never understand why coaches are given such power -- it's not like they can go down to the grocery store and pull competent officials off a shelf.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Rich

Unless you're on the coach's chosen list, then I guess it's a great system. Probably one reason why the system stays the way it is.

I'll never understand why coaches are given such power -- it's not like they can go down to the grocery store and pull competent officials off a shelf.

I think one of the reasons they have the power is because they also have the power to determine which association gets to ref their district. The main reason I moved to this association is because it was able to convince 3 of the bigger districts near me to use it instead of the Dallas association. The coaches were the ones they had to convince.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Rich

Unless you're on the coach's chosen list, then I guess it's a great system. Probably one reason why the system stays the way it is.

I'll never understand why coaches are given such power -- it's not like they can go down to the grocery store and pull competent officials off a shelf.

Well, coaches do seem to have much more to lose (financially and perhaps career wise) than we h.s. officials.

Most h.s. officials I know are not full time referees. They hold down full time jobs away from the court.

These coaches jobs are usually on the line year to year, contract to contract based on wins and losses. No, it's not the NBA where a firing happens at the whim of the owner (AD), but, it's similar in that regard.

Coaches are out there representing their school, drawing a salary and trying to win. We are out there having fun and picking up a $70 check for our ubiased efforts.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I did not - I ended up assigned to a JV game somewhere as I recall. It was a bitter pill to swallow. Here in TX the coaches have so much power. ....

Do the AAU coaches act in the same manner. The most arrogant coach I've ever dealt with is the HC of a Texas AAU powerhouse.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Do the AAU coaches act in the same manner. The most arrogant coach I've ever dealt with is the HC of a Texas AAU powerhouse.

Not really. The AAU tourney officials are assigned by a for profit organization. While coaches have little power, there is a low tolerance for treating coaches, players, and especially the paying fans with disrespect. But we are also getting paid significantly less for those games as well. Apples and oranges really.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

It's nice not having to deal with a single assignor.

I work for multiple ones and I would not work for the one I did this procedure in their game. Then when the word got around a couple of others might not use me either. Assignors talk around here.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I work for multiple ones and I would not work for the one I did this procedure in their game. Then when the word got around a couple of others might not use me either. Assignors talk around here.

Peace

Glad I don't work in NE Illinois, then.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

While this is absolutely true, I was inferring I would get grief from my assigner. And I was exaggerating a bit to prove the point. I would get a talking to for sure but probably wouldn't lose my status. I certainly might get the opportunity to travel more to the far, far outskirts of the area from that point on, though.

As would I. And if the talk-to didn't work, I'd find myself on lower and lower games til I was doing nothing but driving to distant small towns for middle school double headers.