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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:35pm
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Jeremy,
My concern here would be mechanics at the spot of the throw-in not helping avoid the obvious confusion amongst the players. You say you handed the ball to the thrower. It's not a front court throw-in for them, so I would expect you to bounce it. Did you inform the thrower and give a visible signal as to whether it was a spot throw-in? In looking at the mechanics manual I don't see a specific mention (resuming play after time out) of giving direction (as in the start of a quarter), but I know I will give a visible direction as the teams break their huddles and take the court. Did you do that?
As they broke their huddle I called out for yellow ball as I was standing on the endline. I remember saying to the yellow player that you have the baseline and can run. Black had scored right before yellow called timeout. I handed the ball to the player instead of bouncing because there was defensive pressure. I did not point in the direction that yellow should be going after the timeout was over. Should I be doing this after a timeout? I do it after an intermission. After a timeout I will just state the color.

I believe the confusion came from the fact that black had been pressing all game, they came up to press which brought all of yellow up. The coaches for Black then yelled "No you are in 3-2." Black moved into a 3-2 half court zone but did so in the front court. I think this is where the yellow brains went haywire that they were on their offensive end. While handing the ball to yellow the Coaches of Black yelled that they were on the wrong end. They retreated just as yellow was throwing the ball in.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:52pm
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Should I be doing this after a timeout?
Yes. imo.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:54pm
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Yes. imo.
I always do if the ball is coming in on the sideline but for never do if it is on the endline. No reason, mainly bc I never thought about it.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:58pm
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Has a JV boys game last year, came in early and both teams had the same yellow jerseys on with very little difference in highlights. I am so glad I did not have that game. Afterward, I asked the refs if they tried to find t-shirts to go under one of the teams jerseys, and he wished he thought of that.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:28pm
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Sounds like you weren't the problem.

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As they broke their huddle I called out for yellow ball as I was standing on the endline. I remember saying to the yellow player that you have the baseline and can run. Black had scored right before yellow called timeout. I handed the ball to the player instead of bouncing because there was defensive pressure. I did not point in the direction that yellow should be going after the timeout was over. Should I be doing this after a timeout? I do it after an intermission. After a timeout I will just state the color.

I believe the confusion came from the fact that black had been pressing all game, they came up to press which brought all of yellow up. The coaches for Black then yelled "No you are in 3-2." Black moved into a 3-2 half court zone but did so in the front court. I think this is where the yellow brains went haywire that they were on their offensive end. While handing the ball to yellow the Coaches of Black yelled that they were on the wrong end. They retreated just as yellow was throwing the ball in.
kids! Sounds like you did all you could do.
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Old Fri Jan 18, 2013, 12:16am
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I did not point in the direction that yellow should be going after the timeout was over. Should I be doing this after a timeout?
Put it this way: it can't hurt.

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I handed the ball to the player instead of bouncing because there was defensive pressure.
I've always found it interesting that the manual calls for the T to hand the ball to A1 if there's defensive pressure in the backcourt. I would think the powers that be would want the T to bounce it to make sure s/he starts with a wider view of the action. Plus, if A1 can run the end line and the T is standing next to him/her that could create a problem. Ah well.
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Old Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:51am
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I've always found it interesting that the manual calls for the T to hand the ball to A1 if there's defensive pressure in the backcourt. I would think the powers that be would want the T to bounce it to make sure s/he starts with a wider view of the action. Plus, if A1 can run the end line and the T is standing next to him/her that could create a problem. Ah well.
I have to admit I don't follow that. When there's pressure I tend to step further away to get a better angle on the defenders.
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Old Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:24am
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Agree with others...

I've never found that handing the ball put me in a better position to officiate.
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