3 man mechanics

[just another ref]

I'm still making up my own mind about this. I'm not sure that for those of us who do 90%+ 2 man, that when we do the occasional 3 man, the old system may be a better system.

The more you do, the more ways you have to screw it up.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I'm still making up my own mind about this. I'm not sure that for those of us who do 90%+ 2 man, that when we do the occasional 3 man, the old system may be a better system.

The more you do, the more ways you have to screw it up.

Forgive me but what is the "old way?"

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Forgive me but what is the "old way?"

Peace

The one that y'all laugh about and roll your eyes, with the "dead C."

Basically, C is always opposite the table. There is no rotation.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The one that y'all laugh about and roll your eyes, with the "dead C."

Basically, C is always opposite the table. There is no rotation.

Didn't the NBA used to do it that way? I could swear I've seen old broadcasts where the C is always opposite table. If the Lead or Trail (backcourt) comes over during a throw-in they immediately go back tableside.

[tomegun]

The great state of Mississippi used this old system as recently as the 2006-07 season. When I went to the first meeting where we were on the court I was blown away by this. Fortunately, they went to the normal 3-man rotation the next season along with a raise up to $75...for two games. Like I said, the great state of Mississippi.

[just another ref]

If everybody is on the same page, without a doubt the flex (or whatever else it is called) is a superior system. But if you have a bunch of guys who have called only 2 man, some for over 30 years, and now have just a game or two a year 3 man, sometimes less is more. Nothing much worse than being in the lead, crossing over, and neither partner shows any sign of moving. Unless it's being the T, looking over, and the C is closer to the division line than you are.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If everybody is on the same page, without a doubt the flex (or whatever else it is called) is a superior system. But if you have a bunch of guys who have called only 2 man, some for over 30 years, and now have just a game or two a year 3 man, sometimes less is more. Nothing much worse than being in the lead, crossing over, and neither partner shows any sign of moving. Unless it's being the T, looking over, and the C is closer to the division line than you are.

I think 3-man with no movement is worse than 2-man. You probably end up with 3 guys standing in quicksand and nobody moving to get better angles.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If everybody is on the same page, without a doubt the flex (or whatever else it is called) is a superior system. But if you have a bunch of guys who have called only 2 man, some for over 30 years, and now have just a game or two a year 3 man, sometimes less is more

Well, of course 3-man is better than two, if that's part of the issue. Six eyes watching the ball are always better than just four.

[upanddown]

A few good replies will be shared with my crew tomorrow night during my pregame. Had a young gun ask me. Sat. pm game if we're gonna " flex" . I simply said " Only iif we have to when ball is strong " See I just returned Hawaii to ref after a 5 yr abscence in Guam and Texas. Its good to be home.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by upanddown

A few good replies will be shared with my crew tomorrow night during my pregame. Had a young gun ask me. Sat. pm game if we're gonna " flex" . I simply said " Only iif we have to when ball is strong " See I just returned Hawaii to ref after a 5 yr abscence in Guam and Texas. Its good to be home.

That's not the right answer, IMO. The right time to rotate is when you have a better look from doing so. Going ballside when the C is on ball is something L's should do as a matter of course (with some exceptions) unless there's a particularly hot competitive matchup opposite the ball that requires that you stay put.

When all three of the officials aren't hesitant when it comes to rotating and moving to get the best looks -- that's when 3-person officiating is like poetry in motion.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by upanddown

A few good replies will be shared with my crew tomorrow night during my pregame. Had a young gun ask me. Sat. pm game if we're gonna " flex" . I simply said " Only iif we have to when ball is strong "

I'm a little confused by your response.

I *think* "strong side" means the side with L and T. So, if "ball is strong", then ball side = strongside, so why would you rotate (or "flex" -- and I agree I'd ask what was meant by that term before I answered)?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The one that y'all laugh about and roll your eyes, with the "dead C."

Basically, C is always opposite the table. There is no rotation.

I thought what we laughed at was the 2 person mechanics where the T and the L could be under the basket and at the center circle? Then again I do not remember, but I just remember someone from the NF saying something about some weird mechanic that no one in the country did but in that one state.

Peace