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All-black shoes ... If my "assigner" cared, then I'd care and either wear what was "suggested" or understand and live with the consequences.
Well put. That should end this thread.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 04:58pm
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I was watching the Duke game last night and noticed that two of the officials had the white Nike swoosh on their shoes.

Is this allowed in your HS pools across the country?
Yes, the NCHSAA allows us to have white on our shoes. It allows us a greater selection of shoes to choose from.

Nobody in the stands or on the bench cares, or even notices, if we have white on our shoes. It's a silly standard.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 05:47pm
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Yes, the NCHSAA allows us to have white on our shoes. It allows us a greater selection of shoes to choose from.

Nobody in the stands or on the bench cares, or even notices, if we have white on our shoes. It's a silly standard.
I frankly did not even notice if any of the officials at your tournament had white on their shoes. I think there is too much emphasis on stuff that doesn't matter. Generally, it seems to be by those who may not have game management skills.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 07:00pm
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I've gotta ask:

Nobody in the stands or on the bench cares about white on our shoes, but they do care if we have on a belt?
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 07:03pm
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Nobody in the stands or on the bench cares about white on our shoes, but they do care if we have on a belt?
Hey? How do I "friend" just another ref? What do I have to click on? Is there a "like" button somewhere?
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 07:11pm
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I frankly did not even notice if any of the officials at your tournament had white on their shoes. I think there is too much emphasis on stuff that doesn't matter. Generally, it seems to be by those who may not have game management skills.
Most have chosen not to since we wear the gray pinstripes. The white kinda clashes. I've looked for Zigs with white but haven't found any.

I wore the Zigs with white on them in football. The white on the shoes with the black slacks w/white stripes pops.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 08:09pm
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Nobody in the stands or on the bench cares, or even notices, if we have white on our shoes. It's a silly standard.
People notice. You can pretend they don't if it makes you feel better about choosing to look sloppy, but it doesn't change the reality.

If you wear non-black sneakers, white socks, non-black shorts, a belt, sneaks with noticeable white, etc., you look like a hack. Plain and simple.

There's no two ways about it and the dismissal of such a notion is only done by those who, for reasons all their own, choose not to conform to a very reasonable dress code.

You may very well officiate a terrific game, but it will be done to the unwitting end of combating a perception that you are a half-assed, slapdick official.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 08:18pm
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People notice. You can pretend they don't if it makes you feel better about choosing to look sloppy, but it doesn't change the reality.

If you wear non-black sneakers, white socks, non-black shorts, a belt, sneaks with noticeable white, etc., you look like a hack. Plain and simple.

There's no two ways about it and the dismissal of such a notion is only done by those who, for reasons all their own, choose not to conform to a very reasonable dress code.

You may very well officiate a terrific game, but it will be done to the unwitting end of combating a perception that you are a half-assed, slapdick official.
Perhaps a tad bit unnecessary, uncalled for, and over-the-top?

Things vary from area to area and some probably make exceptions based on health or extraordinary circumstances. To presume your opinion is the correct and only legitimate one is ludicrous.

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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 08:33pm
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Perhaps a tad bit unnecessary, uncalled for, and over-the-top?
Let me guess: You wear one or some combination of all of the above with regularity.

Maybe someone wears white socks and a belt for health reasons

The sneakers for health -- I'm good with that, i.e. running shoes whenever passable for rec/adult leagues, etc. Still doesn't look great and has you standing out to at least some people in the gym before the ball is even live.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 08:55pm
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Let me guess: You wear one or some combination of all of the above with regularity.

Maybe someone wears white socks and a belt for health reasons

The sneakers for health -- I'm good with that, i.e. running shoes whenever passable for rec/adult leagues, etc. Still doesn't look great and has you standing out to at least some people in the gym before the ball is even live.
And you would be mistaken.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 10:56pm
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Perhaps a tad bit unnecessary, uncalled for, and over-the-top?
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Let me guess: You wear one or some combination of all of the above with regularity.
I think it was unnecessary and over-the-top and I wear none of the above. And my shoes are all black. I wear black socks, and I go beltless,
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 08:19pm
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People notice. You can pretend they don't if it makes you feel better about choosing to look sloppy, but it doesn't change the reality.

If you wear non-black sneakers, white socks, non-black shorts, a belt, sneaks with noticeable white, etc., you look like a hack. Plain and simple.

There's no two ways about it and the dismissal of such a notion is only done by those who, for reasons all their own, choose not to conform to a very reasonable dress code.

You may very well officiate a terrific game, but it will be done to the unwitting end of combating a perception that you are a half-assed, slapdick official.
The rules specify entirely black shoes and our state does as well.
(black shoes with black laces, I believe are the words)

The rulebook doesn't mention a belt. Our state makes allowance for one.
"A belt, if worn, shall be black."

I have no problem with the concept of obeying a dress code. It's unwritten rules, which usually vary from place to place, which are problematic.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2013, 08:43pm
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I have no problem with the concept of obeying a dress code. It's unwritten rules, which usually vary from place to place, which are problematic.
Nor do I. And our rules allow white on the shoes.
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nor do i. And our rules allow white on the shoes.
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