White on your shoes

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

So what do you do if you are wearing different shoes? What does that have to do with looking like a team? Don't teams have different players with different shoes? Just asking.

Peace

I guess we have to wear the same brand shoes, pants, shirts, etc. And make sure if you use a noose your partner does, too. No Smitty for you!

I agree with you. Who cares?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by egj13

I was watching the Duke game last night and noticed that two of the officials had the white Nike swoosh on their shoes.

Is this allowed in your HS pools across the country?

Yes, the NCHSAA allows us to have white on our shoes. It allows us a greater selection of shoes to choose from.

Nobody in the stands or on the bench cares, or even notices, if we have white on our shoes. It's a silly standard.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Yes, the NCHSAA allows us to have white on our shoes. It allows us a greater selection of shoes to choose from.

Nobody in the stands or on the bench cares, or even notices, if we have white on our shoes. It's a silly standard.

I frankly did not even notice if any of the officials at your tournament had white on their shoes. I think there is too much emphasis on stuff that doesn't matter. Generally, it seems to be by those who may not have game management skills.

[just another ref]

I've gotta ask:

Nobody in the stands or on the bench cares about white on our shoes, but they do care if we have on a belt?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Nobody in the stands or on the bench cares about white on our shoes, but they do care if we have on a belt?

Hey? How do I "friend" just another ref? What do I have to click on? Is there a "like" button somewhere?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

John Adams has posted bulletins in the past expressing his displeasure with the amount of white showing on officials' shoes.

Probably because of a nasty letter sent to him by (Should I say it?) DevonMoore (Why not?).

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

I frankly did not even notice if any of the officials at your tournament had white on their shoes. I think there is too much emphasis on stuff that doesn't matter. Generally, it seems to be by those who may not have game management skills.

Most have chosen not to since we wear the gray pinstripes. The white kinda clashes. I've looked for Zigs with white but haven't found any.

I wore the Zigs with white on them in football. The white on the shoes with the black slacks w/white stripes pops.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Nobody in the stands or on the bench cares, or even notices, if we have white on our shoes. It's a silly standard.

People notice. You can pretend they don't if it makes you feel better about choosing to look sloppy, but it doesn't change the reality.

If you wear non-black sneakers, white socks, non-black shorts, a belt, sneaks with noticeable white, etc., you look like a hack. Plain and simple.

There's no two ways about it and the dismissal of such a notion is only done by those who, for reasons all their own, choose not to conform to a very reasonable dress code.

You may very well officiate a terrific game, but it will be done to the unwitting end of combating a perception that you are a half-assed, slapdick official.

[rekent]

Originally Posted by ODog

People notice. You can pretend they don't if it makes you feel better about choosing to look sloppy, but it doesn't change the reality.

If you wear non-black sneakers, white socks, non-black shorts, a belt, sneaks with noticeable white, etc., you look like a hack. Plain and simple.

There's no two ways about it and the dismissal of such a notion is only done by those who, for reasons all their own, choose not to conform to a very reasonable dress code.

You may very well officiate a terrific game, but it will be done to the unwitting end of combating a perception that you are a half-assed, slapdick official.

Perhaps a tad bit unnecessary, uncalled for, and over-the-top?

Things vary from area to area and some probably make exceptions based on health or extraordinary circumstances. To presume your opinion is the correct and only legitimate one is ludicrous.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by ODog

People notice. You can pretend they don't if it makes you feel better about choosing to look sloppy, but it doesn't change the reality.

If you wear non-black sneakers, white socks, non-black shorts, a belt, sneaks with noticeable white, etc., you look like a hack. Plain and simple.

There's no two ways about it and the dismissal of such a notion is only done by those who, for reasons all their own, choose not to conform to a very reasonable dress code.

You may very well officiate a terrific game, but it will be done to the unwitting end of combating a perception that you are a half-assed, slapdick official.

The rules specify entirely black shoes and our state does as well.
(black shoes with black laces, I believe are the words)

The rulebook doesn't mention a belt. Our state makes allowance for one.
"A belt, if worn, shall be black."

I have no problem with the concept of obeying a dress code. It's unwritten rules, which usually vary from place to place, which are problematic.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by ODog

People notice. You can pretend they don't if it makes you feel better about choosing to look sloppy, but it doesn't change the reality.

Wearing black officiating shoes with a white whoosh or three white stripes doesn't make anyone look like sloppy.

If you wear non-black sneakers, white socks, non-black shorts, a belt, sneaks with noticeable white, etc., you look like a hack. Plain and simple.

No one said you should wear non-black sneakers, white socks, non-black shorts or a belt. So please, stop being ridiculous.

Wearing black officiating shoes with a white whoosh or three white stripes doesn't make anyone look like a hack.

There's no two ways about it and the dismissal of such a notion is only done by those who, for reasons all their own, choose not to conform to a very reasonable dress code.

Excuse me that's a very ignorant opinion. MLB, NFL and NBA officials wear shoes with white on them. NCAA officials in a wide range of sports wear shoes with white on them. NFHS soccer, baseball and softball officials have worn white on their shoes for years. It's stupid that this black only be applied to basketball officials. S-t-u-p-i-d.

You may very well officiate a terrific game, but it will be done to the unwitting end of combating a perception that you are a half-assed, slapdick official.

I think I've made my point. So move into the 21st century and stop being a half-assed, slapdick old fart.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by rekent

Perhaps a tad bit unnecessary, uncalled for, and over-the-top?

Let me guess: You wear one or some combination of all of the above with regularity.

Maybe someone wears white socks and a belt for health reasons

The sneakers for health -- I'm good with that, i.e. running shoes whenever passable for rec/adult leagues, etc. Still doesn't look great and has you standing out to at least some people in the gym before the ball is even live.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by ref3808

Official working the court before my games last Sunday was wearing white sneakers, navy blue pants, a brown belt and had a yellow lanyard. Sort of puts the Nike swoosh into perspective. His shirt had a patch so I assume he knows, or should know, better.

Whenever MTD, Jr., officiates and I am not officiating that night I go with him to his game. I always (with apologies to the late J. Dallas Shirley) pack my gear even though his partners have always shown up, UNTIL: I went to one of Mark, Jr.'s game (boys' H.S. jr. varsity) last year and I did not take my gear (Bonnie, my better half) admonished me for not taking my gear, but I assured her that I wouldn't need it). Guess what? Mark's partner did not show up. Mark had packed a second shirt and had extra lanyards and whistles; the AD found me a pair of white low-cut sneakers; and I wore the khaki slacks and brown belt that I had wore to the game. I also proceede to call the first five fouls of the game, . A good time was had by all, and the home school's AD and the league assigner was happy I was there to fill in.

MTD, Sr.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I have no problem with the concept of obeying a dress code. It's unwritten rules, which usually vary from place to place, which are problematic.

Nor do I. And our rules allow white on the shoes.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bktballref

nor do i. And our rules allow white on the shoes.

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