Coach Player Misconduct

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...for me, fellow officials...IT IS NOT WHAT THEY SAY...IT IS HOW THEY SAY IT!

Yep. T'd a kid earlier this year for saying "Crap." That one word. On the surface, that sounds extreme, but here's the story. He slipped and went to the floor. Traveling.

He screamed it to the rafters. "CRAP!!!"

It was too much, in my opinion.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Yep. T'd a kid earlier this year for saying "Crap." That one word. On the surface, that sounds extreme, but here's the story. He slipped and went to the floor. Traveling.

He screamed it to the rafters. "CRAP!!!"It was too much, in my opinion.

This is key to the whole situation as far as I am concerned....

Kid misses a layup or commits a foul and says something in a low voice that I happen to pick up on....just a quick word of warning to watch the language.

Yelled out for the world to hear....I have to deal with that.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Andy

This is key to the whole situation as far as I am concerned....

Kid misses a layup or commits a foul and says something in a low voice that I happen to pick up on....just a quick word of warning to watch the language.

Yelled out for the world to hear....I have to deal with that.

I agree, but some words are not going to even draw much warning if said to themselves in anger. And certainly not saying "crap."

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I agree, but some words are not going to even draw much warning if said to themselves in anger. And certainly not saying "crap."

Peace

Yeah, I couldn't imagine doing anything more than snicker a little at a kid screaming out "crap."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

Yeah, I couldn't imagine doing anything more than snicker a little at a kid screaming out "crap."

I guess that is inappropriate if you believe in God.

Peace

[DLH17]

I remember getting a tongue lashing when I was 10 yrs old from my mom for saying "crap". Never got a reprimand from an official when I played hoops though.

Did that T lose the game for the kids' team? Typical ref.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I guess that is inappropriate if you believe in God.

Peace

I got carded once for the "fr" word, not knowing that in that area, it had the exact same meaning as the fudge word. I was dumbfounded until my AC informed me of that colloquialism. We had just let in a soft goal to a lousy team and I yelled at all of us to stop "goofing off".

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Rich

Yeah, I couldn't imagine doing anything more than snicker a little at a kid screaming out "crap."

It really had nothing to do with the word. He could have yelled "shoot."

It was the volume coupled with the burning stare in my direction and the wild gesture.

10-3-6.e A player shall not disrespectfully address.......... an official or gesture in such a manner as to indicate resentment.

It was all there. To be totally honest this was probably the straw that broke the camel's back. The whole game had been a series of rolled eyes and
"Oh, my God!" on a lot of calls. All this from a team who was quickly buried by the opponent and certainly one of the worst VB teams I ever saw. This was also the 5th foul and 2nd T of the game for this player. First T was for shoving an opponent after being fouled.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

It really had nothing to do with the word. He could have yelled "shoot."

It was the volume coupled with the burning stare in my direction and the wild gesture.

10-3-6.e A player shall not disrespectfully address.......... an official or gesture in such a manner as to indicate resentment.

It was all there. To be totally honest this was probably the straw that broke the camel's back. The whole game had been a series of rolled eyes and
"Oh, my God!" on a lot of calls. All this from a team who was quickly buried by the opponent and certainly one of the worst VB teams I ever saw. This was also the 5th foul and 2nd T of the game for this player. First T was for shoving an opponent after being fouled.

Well, you provided more detail. I thought the "Crap!" was because he missed the shot, not because he blamed you for missing the shot.