Teaching new church league refs

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by bainsey

The concept of control -- player control, team control, no control -- and when control starts and ends. These affect so many other rules.

Great point thanks.

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Here ya go, Jack. Print these and hand them out.

www.southeasternbasketball.org/doc/DTM-over-the-back.doc

www.southeasternbasketball.org/doc/DTM-over-and-back.doc

www.southeasternbasketball.org/doc/DTM-thats-traveling.doc

www.southeasternbasketball.org/doc/DTM-three-seconds.doc

PM me an email address and I'll send you some more.

Great Stuff Thanks guys, you all have been so helpful.

[canuckrefguy]

If my brief experiences with church leagues are any indication, those new officials had better practice their technical foul procedures

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

If my brief experiences with church leagues are any indication, those new officials had better practice their technical foul procedures

Really? We never T's at the lower level. I think we only had 1 or 2 at the HS level last year. Year before that we had a bad team in and they got a boat load, but they are not allowed back.

This really is a Church based league. You MUST attend church or you can not play. Many leagues do not have that rule.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

You MUST attend church or you can not play. Many leagues do not have that rule.

Thank, uh... goodness.

[26 Year Gap]

There is a page at the end of the rule book which has about 20 basic concepts of the game. It would make a great handout. It is entitled "Basketball Rules Fundamentals."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

There is a page at the end of the rule book which has about 20 basic concepts of the game. It would make a great handout. It is entitled "Basketball Rules Fundamentals."

1. While the ball remains live, a loose ball always remains in control of the team
whose player last had control, unless it is a try or tap for goal.
2. Neither a team nor any player is ever in control during a dead ball, jump ball, or
when the ball is in flight during a try or tap for a goal.
3. A goal is made when a live ball enters the basket from above and remains in or
passes through unless canceled by a throw-in violation or a player-control foul.
4. The jump ball, the throw-in and the free throw are the only methods of getting a
dead ball live.
5. Neither the dribble nor traveling rule operates during the jump ball, throw-in or
free throw.
6. It is not possible for a player to travel during a dribble.
7. The only infractions for which points are awarded are goaltending by the defense
or basket interference at the opponent’s basket.
8. There are three types of violations and each has its own penalty.
9. A ball in flight has the same relationship to frontcourt or backcourt, or inbounds
or out of bounds, as when it last touched a person or the floor.
10. Personal fouls always involve illegal contact and occur during a live ball, except a
common foul by or on an airborne shooter.
11. The penalty for a single flagrant personal or flagrant technical foul is two free
throws and disqualification plus awarding the ball to the opponents for a
throw-in.
12. Penalties for fouls are administered in the order in which they occur.
13. A live-ball foul by the offense (team in control or last in control if the ball is loose),
or the expiration of time for a quarter or extra period, causes the ball to become
dead immediately, unless the ball is in flight during a try or tap for goal. The ball
also becomes dead when a player-control foul occurs.
14. The first or only free-throw violation by the offense causes the ball to become
dead immed iately.
15. A double personal foul involves only personal fouls and only two opponents; no
free throws awarded and the ball is put in play at the point of interruption. A
double technical foul involves only technical fouls and only two opponents; no free
throws are awarded, and the ball is put in play at the point of interruption.
16. The official’s whistle seldom causes the ball to become dead (it is already dead).
17. “Continuous motion” applies both to tries and taps for field goals and free throws,
but it has no significance unless there is a foul by the defense during the interval
which begins when the habitual trying or tapping movement starts and ends when
the ball is clearly in flight.
18. Whether the clock is running or is stopped has no influence on the counting of a goal.
19. A ball which touches the front face or edges of the backboard is treated the same
as touching the floor inbounds, except that when the ball touches the thrower’s
backboard, it does not constitute a part of a dribble.
20. If the ball goes through the basket before or after a player-control foul, the goal
shall not be counted.

[Terrapins Fan]

Thanks Billy.

Mark,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan
You MUST attend church or you can not play. Many leagues do not have that rule.
Thank, uh... goodness.

If it's a CHURCH league, I believe the kids SHOULD attend a church. JMO.

I ref in a 2nd church league and that is not a rule. And you can tell the difference in the kids behavior.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Thanks Billy.

Mark,



If it's a CHURCH league, I believe the kids SHOULD attend a church. JMO.

I ref in a 2nd church league and that is not a rule. And you can tell the difference in the kids behavior.

In my experience it has never made much difference as to who attends the church or not when doing those leagues in the change of behavior. If they do not act better in private school teams where they have actual control over things the player or coach does with the school, I see these leagues as much of the same in their behavior. They just call it a "church" league.

Peace

[canuckrefguy]

The church leagues that occur in my area are mainly mens rec league type things; haven't seen them in a few years, but the short experience I did have was positively awful.

As for the "church" in "church leagues", my experience has shown me that religion of any kind is no guarantee of positive or sportsmanlike behaviour. I certainly don't think it hurts, but Catholic HS teams in my neck of the woods tend not to be any better than secular ones. That goes for public or private schools.