Teaching new church league refs

[Adam]

I would try to be there the first few games, at least the first single game for each official, to provide some instant feedback. And make sure the coaches are behaving.

[rsl]

I have done this a couple of times. My agenda is below. First and foremost I try to get them to be comfortable blowing the whistle. In fact, I make them blow their whistle instead of raise their hand to ask a question. Then, I try to give accurate descriptions of each foul and violation they may actually have to call in the first few games. If you teach a group of thirty and end up up with 1 or 2 good recruits, call it a success.

Good luck!

Best quick advice
• Blow your whistle
• Raise your arm (either hand or fist)

Basics
• Coverage areas, angles, off-ball

Mechanics
• Throw-in administration, jump administration, free throw administration

Violations
• Travel, Double dribble, carry, out of bounds, back court, 3 seconds, backcourt, kick

Fouls
• What is a foul?
Displacement, RBSQ, Advantage/Disadvantage
• Types of fouls (demonstrate each one)
Hold, Push, Illegal use of hands, Player control, Trip

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by rsl

Hold, Push, Illegal use of hands, Player control, Trip

I was with you right up until here.....

[JRutledge]

The question I have, is why don't you use already existing officials for this league? These kind of leagues are the way officials around here make some extra money and to fill out some parts of their schedule for younger officials?

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The question I have, is why don't you use already existing officials for this league? These kind of leagues are the way officials around here make some extra money and to fill out some parts of their schedule for younger officials? Peace

Rut - I don't know about his particular situation regarding this, but in my local kids rec league we go up against other groups to get gym space from the school district. One of the points that helps us get priority on space is that we hire and teach HS kids to ref the little guys and the school district Board really appreciates that.

Of course, our policy that any kid in grades 3-12 who wants to play gets to play regardless of their family's financial situation is a big plus for us, too.

[JRutledge]

Nothing wrong with that. I just ask because many leagues have gone to rules that allow them to have licensed officials work as a mandate. It makes little difference, but with liability always in the backdrop and time to teach others rules, that seems to be what is done here. I know there are some leagues that might have HS kids work or non-licensed adults, but it seems to the norm they contact an existing high school assignor or local officials association and use their officials. I get emails literally every day to work some league somewhere and cover everything from middle school to men's leagues in many places.

Peace

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Nothing wrong with that. I just ask because many leagues have gone to rules that allow them to have licensed officials work as a mandate. It makes little difference, but with liability always in the backdrop and time to teach others rules, that seems to be what is done here. I know there are some leagues that might have HS kids work or non-licensed adults, but it seems to the norm they contact an existing high school assignor or local officials association and use their officials. I get emails literally every day to work some league somewhere and cover everything from middle school to men's leagues in many places.

Peace

My one Youth League uses all kids and non-licensed adults. Another uses kids and non-licensed adults for all 15U and below, but, the B16-18 division uses licensed officials. Then we have several others through our association that use strictly licensed adults. I don't know what the liability is.

Just shows to go you......

[bainsey]

The concept of control -- player control, team control, no control -- and when control starts and ends. These affect so many other rules.

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by bainsey

The concept of control -- player control, team control, no control -- and when control starts and ends. These affect so many other rules.

Great point thanks.

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The question I have, is why don't you use already existing officials for this league? These kind of leagues are the way officials around here make some extra money and to fill out some parts of their schedule for younger officials?

Peace

We have 2 returning kids from last year, we have 3 adults that help as needed and we use certified officials for the HS games.

We always need more officials. I will have 6 new officials in my class on Wednesday.

[canuckrefguy]

If my brief experiences with church leagues are any indication, those new officials had better practice their technical foul procedures

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

If my brief experiences with church leagues are any indication, those new officials had better practice their technical foul procedures

Really? We never T's at the lower level. I think we only had 1 or 2 at the HS level last year. Year before that we had a bad team in and they got a boat load, but they are not allowed back.

This really is a Church based league. You MUST attend church or you can not play. Many leagues do not have that rule.

[rsl]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I was with you right up until here.....

I took this list from 10-6-1, but I missed the last one (block):

Types of fouls (demonstrate each one)
Hold, Push, Illegal use of hands, Player control, Trip, Block

I'd love to update my training. How would you best summarize fouls for a short training?

10-6-1
A player shall not hold, push, charge, trip or impede the progress of an opponent by extending arm(s), shoulder(s), hip(s) or knee(s), or by bending his/her body into other than a normal position; nor use any rough tactics.

[Camron Rust]

Probably the most important point...

Teach them what defenders can legally do (i.e., verticality and moving to maintain LGP) and tell them to referee the defense. If the defense did nothing wrong, then they didn't foul. If there is enough contact for a foul and the defender didn't foul, then it is an offensive foul.

If they can do that, they'll get most of the fouls correct. Leave the advanced concepts (such as Advantage/Disadvantage, etc.) for when they get more comfortable. It is enough at first just to see a basic foul and know what to do.

Mechanically, just get them to box in the players and move to get a view through the play along with basic coverage areas.

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by Adam

I would try to be there the first few games, at least the first single game for each official, to provide some instant feedback. And make sure the coaches are behaving.

I do try to attend as many of the games as I can. I usually ref 2 games ( we have 11 games on Saturdays ) We use certified officials for the HS games and some MS games. I try to stay for about 3 more. My son is 15 this will be his 2nd year of reffing. He is very good from all the stories I have brought home since he was 4 years old.

Over all our coaches are good. It really is a Church based league.