Coach-Player misconduct: Get involved?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would think "freaking a$$" might be considered over the top to some too. I had a parent want me to T a coach because he said "God Dagit." I told the parent, "Not everyone believes in God." The problem is everyone is using a different standard for different reasons. Then again that is life and some of you really need to get used to that fact.

Peace

True, and I would not presume to advise anyone one way or the other here, but, apparently, in your area, you don't believe much in tact, either.

[Adam]

I'm only guessing, but I would bet the areas where you'll get grief for calling this are far outnumbered by the areas where more trouble would come for letting this crap go.

[Maineac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I happen to totally agree with this. I guess some here do not hear what kids say to each other very often at that age. They use that word much more than it is said to them by a coach, I can almost guarantee that one.

Peace

I hear kids use it all the time. Doesn't make it acceptable. All the more reason I wouldn't put up with a coach using it on them in a freshman game within easy earshot of me. It's not the NBA, or even the NCAA. It's supposed to be an extension of school. Like someone else said earlier, would you accept a teacher using this kind of language in the classroom? What makes it OK here?

And johnny d, as amusing as your post was, I assure you this has nothing to do with the thickness of my skin, if you were talking to me. How would you feel about "that ref johnny d *ucking sucks!" from the coach to the players loud enough for you or your partner to "overhear?" Would you still not care what goes on in the huddle? After all, these fragile freshmen hear and say these words many times each day.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Maineac

I hear kids use it all the time. Doesn't make it acceptable. All the more reason I wouldn't put up with a coach using it on them in a freshman game within easy earshot of me. It's not the NBA, or even the NCAA. It's supposed to be an extension of school. Like someone else said earlier, would you accept a teacher using this kind of language in the classroom? What makes it OK here?

Again you are missing the point about acceptability. I see officials allow all kinds of things I do not find acceptable to me, you do not see me getting upset with them when they handle situations a different way. There are other things illegal in the rules and I do not even see officials address or try to correct, but inappropriate language all of a sudden has to be the big bad rule we must enforce?

Again, a Technical foul does not solve everything. Some things can be addressed in another way and accomplish the same thing. This is sports, not social justice arena.

Actually NCAA players in my experience are usually better behaved than HS players. Those officials at that level do not do or say the things I see regularly at the HS level because those officials will quickly put them in their place. You think kids are getting the the faces of Teddy Valentine, Karl Hess or Jim Burr?

Peace

[Maineac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Again you are missing the point about acceptability. I see officials allow all kinds of things I do not find acceptable to me, you do not see me getting upset with them when they handle situations a different way. There are other things illegal in the rules and I do not even see officials address or try to correct, but inappropriate language all of a sudden has to be the big bad rule we must enforce?

I'm not missing your point. I got it in your first post. I was describing how I would handle things in answer to the OP. I'm not getting upset with you for handling situations in a different way either. You handle them how you handle them. As do I.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Again, a Technical foul does not solve everything. Some things can be addressed in another way and accomplish the same thing. This is sports, not social justice arena.

I never said a technical foul solves everything. I said in this particular, narrow example that is how I would handle it.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually NCAA players in my experience are usually better behaved than HS players. Those officials at that level do not do or say the things I see regularly at the HS level because those officials will quickly put them in their place. You think kids are getting the the faces of Teddy Valentine, Karl Hess or Jim Burr?

No, I don't. But as I've mentioned several times now, I'm talking about a freshman in high school level.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I dont give a rat's flying *uck what a coach says to his player in their huddle. If the people courtside can hear it, they can complain to the athletic director or other school administrator and they can decide how they want to handle the coach. Otherwise, it is just a word that the fragile freshman ball player you are so concerned about probably hears and says many times each day. Grow some *ucking thicker skin!

Guys that brag about having thick skin often need to be told to "grow a *ucking pair."