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"Hand checks are NON shooting fouls!"
I enjoy "collecting" myths. This latest one came courtesy a middle school fan/parent today, right after I reported a hand-check foul to the table (which is opposite the stands in this little gym). It made me grin, as I can't say I've heard that one before, nor can I figure how someone would draw THAT conclusion.
I wonder if it came from the previous game's coach who wanted an "over the back" call in the first of the doubleheader.
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FWIW- I've never called a hand check on a shooting foul.
At that point it becomes a push for me. Obviously not the rule but I can easily see how a fan or even a coach would think this way. |
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During a foul, when I was table-side, I had a senior coach tell me last night, "C'mon ref, you gotta call those moving screens. They gotta be "set."
I briefly told him about moving screens, contact and not having to be "set." And he turns to his coaches and tells them, well then we just need to teach our players they don't have to be set and it's ok to move....... Like I'm wrong and he's gonna show me later on when someone else calls it on his player...... ![]()
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Too much convo, IMO. I think it's best not to hold rules clinics during games. He didn't ask a question so a simple "We're watching coach" is the most he would get from me.
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The more I think about this, the more I wonder if your parent wasn't right...
A hand-check is a violation in which a defender uses a hand to impede a player's progress. Seems to me that if you do this during a shot (or even as it's being gathered to shoot), you're not really impeding progress as much as displacing a shooter (i.e. pushing). So if you're calling a hand-check, then you're calling a foul that occurred prior to the shot rather than during it. Probably an exceedingly small nit to pick ... but honestly, I can see the parent's beef, and I'd call it a push if it happens during a shot going forward.
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Agree with other posters in that hand-checks occur on dribblers. Would call a push or a hold based on the nature of the foul. Sometimes the fans do have useful observations, but I would not make a habit of listening to what they say as it pertains to a critique of your game. In this case, I think they offered a useful nugget.
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I've never seen anyone call a handcheck on a shooting foul and I don't think I will be either. At that point, it's usually a push...maybe a hold.
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