Block/Charge Play

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

Two feet down, facing the opponent. What's missing?

I don't see B1 get 2 feet down in the path until A1 goes airborne.

B1 lost his initial LGP b/c he thought A1 was going to pass to the wing and B1 moved that direction. He did not regain a LGP before A1 went airborne.

Still, this is the Lead's call all the way, Center had no reason for blowing on this call.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I don't see B1 get 2 feet down in the path until A1 goes airborne.

B1 lost his initial LGP b/c he thought A1 was going to pass to the wing and B1 moved that direction. He did not regain a LGP before A1 went airborne.

Still, this is the Lead's call all the way, Center had no reason for blowing on this call.

He lost his LGP???

Explain your thought process here please?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

He lost his LGP???

Explain your thought process here please?

He left A1's path at the beginning of the play to cut off what thought was going to be a pass to the wing. That's why you see him backpedaling at an angle to get back in the play.

Am I wrong in saying the defender must remain in the path of A1 to maintain his LGP?

[MD Longhorn]

This looks like a block. I've seen a couple of people explain why - but the only explanation from the "it's a charge" people is, "that's a charge." Why does anyone thing that? I'd like to understand their thought process to get there.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

This looks like a block. I've seen a couple of people explain why - but the only explanation from the "it's a charge" people is, "that's a charge." Why does anyone thing that? I'd like to understand their thought process to get there.

I thought he had both feet on the floor, in the path of the shooter before he went airborne. Yes, he moved while the shooter was in the air and centered the contact.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

This looks like a block. I've seen a couple of people explain why - but the only explanation from the "it's a charge" people is, "that's a charge." Why does anyone thing that? I'd like to understand their thought process to get there.

I explained why I think it is a PC in the very first response...again, the defender has LGP and is moving at a diagonal backwards from the shooter, and he takes the contact in the chest. I still think he was there before the shorter jumped after watching the video three times.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He left A1's path at the beginning of the play to cut off what thought was going to be a pass to the wing. That's why you see him backpedaling at an angle to get back in the play.

Am I wrong in saying the defender must remain in the path of A1 to maintain his LGP?

Ok...I can see that. But did he not get back over there in the path (I am talking before the contact) and have both feet on the floor facing the opponent? And his movement was diagonal away from the shooter...

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

He lost his LGP???

Explain your thought process here please?

That is more or less what I see too.

He had LGP but the shooter changed to a new path and the defender was no longer in it and had to shift to get back in the path. The defender was jumping sideways (and backwards) trying to reestablish position but didn't get both feet back down to regain LGP before the shooter was airborne.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That is more or less what I see too.

He had LGP but the shooter changed to a new path and the defender was no longer in it and had to shift to get back in the path. The defender was jumping sideways (and backwards) trying to reestablish position but didn't get both feet back down to regain LGP before the shooter was airborne.

I agree completely.

[rockyroad]

Wait a minute here...according to NASO we aren't supposed to be discussing this!

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Wait a minute here...according to NASO we aren't supposed to be discussing this!

What do unicorn fishes have to do with anything?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

According to NASO we aren't supposed to be discussing this!

... and the penalty for doing so is quite severe.

[Rich]

I watched it three times and have no problem with the L's call. Two feet on the floor, back pedaling, hit outside the RA. To me, he established LGP and never lost it. I get that others disagree.

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That is more or less what I see too.

He had LGP but the shooter changed to a new path and the defender was no longer in it and had to shift to get back in the path. The defender was jumping sideways (and backwards) trying to reestablish position but didn't get both feet back down to regain LGP before the shooter was airborne.

I may be wrong here and am not being a wise guy, but to obtain legal guarding position you must be facing opponent, have both feet on the ground. to "maintain" lgp you can move laterally and away just not towards. Idk that you have to "reestablish" with both feet on the ground every time you move lateraly or away. was i reading you wrong?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

I may be wrong here and am not being a wise guy, but to obtain legal guarding position you must be facing opponent, have both feet on the ground. to "maintain" lgp you can move laterally and away just not towards. Idk that you have to "reestablish" with both feet on the ground every time you move lateraly or away. was i reading you wrong?

To maintain, you must also remain in the path. If you stay in the path, you don't have to reestablish and don't have to get both feet back down or be facing. If, however, the opponent takes a new path that is not towards the defender, the defender must obtain a new LGP.