Is NASO discouraging bulletin board discussions?

[MD Longhorn]

Interesting. I read something quite similar about a year ago ... different sport, different org. But VERY similar.

However, the one you highlighted was a bit different, in that it specified not to mention specific schools, dates, players, officials, coaches, AD's or other such identifiable data or personnel when discussing plays on sites like this.

This seems reasonable to me - the one you quote above from NASO does not. I wonder if they got their initial list from the other one I saw (or they both got from a common source), and then NASO specifically made this change.

[rockyroad]

Re: the highlighted point in the OP...so what will NASO "do" to those of us who do post a video that shows team names on uniforms or something like that, and then comment on a poor call made by the official in that game???

These are nice guidelines to follow, but that one is really sort of out in left field, IMHO.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Re: the highlighted point in the OP...so what will NASO "do" to those of us who do post a video that shows team names on uniforms or something like that, and then comment on a poor call made by the official in that game???

These are nice guidelines to follow, but that one is really sort of out in left field, IMHO.

Forget posting, this seems to make it unethical if someone discusses a play in a meeting and uses video as well.

I put little stock in what NASO says anyway as it relates to officiating. Yes they might be an organization that oversees the world of officiating, but they certainly have no say in what states to or follow unless they choose to adopt this stuff. And in this new world where video is shown all the time on social media or places where officials discuss video plays often. I think the way we discuss should be an issue, but certainly not just simply discussing plays or training officials. We should never publicly say that a coach is an idiot or cannot coach. In private conversations, well that is a different story.

Peace

[Bad Zebra]

That one bullet point seems heavy handed and incongruent with the tone of the rest of the document. I wonder if there is a specific incident that led NASO come down this way.

[BillyMac]

Our local IAABO board secretary treasurer has been warning us against posting on social media for several years now. He gets his information from IAABO (International) conventions.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

That one bullet point seems heavy handed and incongruent with the tone of the rest of the document. I wonder if there is a specific incident that led TASO come down this way.

First of all this is a NASO document, not a TASO document.

Secondly they have no power to tell others what to do as it relates to social media or other forms of media for that matter. It is an interesting discussion point, but I would violate this directive in my basketball class that I teach every fall. And anyone that buys some of the videos from NASO as well would be in violation of this directive for sure.

Peace

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

First of all this is a NASO document, not a TASO document.

Secondly they have no power to tell others what to do as it relates to social media or other forms of media for that matter. It is an interesting discussion point, but I would violate this directive in my basketball class that I teach every fall. And anyone that buys some of the videos from NASO as well would be in violation of this directive for sure.

Peace

As the directive specifically applies to social media, it would not apply to a class or instructional videos.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigwhistle

■ Do not engage in specific play and or ruling evaluation/commentary, whether it be of a game you worked, one that you witnessed or in general about the impact of officials in any sporting event.

Originally Posted by Eastshire

As the directive specifically applies to social media, it would not apply to a class or instructional videos.

It does? The directive does not even use "Social Media" in their wording. It says that we should not engage in specific play and or ruling, evaluation/commentary.

I gave a presentation a few weeks ago called, "You make the call" and I went over all video and plays that have either been discussed here or video from games I have officiated. That did involve commentary, rulings and certainly involved specific plays. Even if my state came out and made this statement, I would take issue with them about such a stance. And my state seems to be in violation, because they give all the clinicians a DVD of plays and situations where officials did good and bad things at their State Finals. And the DVDs are to be used at LOAs to train the officiating community on proper mechanics and procedures involving specific situations and giving interpretations.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

However, the one you highlighted was a bit different, in that it specified not to mention specific schools, dates, players, officials, coaches, AD's or other such identifiable data or personnel when discussing plays on sites like this.

I agree. The bullet point is talking about specific situations where people and scenarios are identified. And I couldn't agree more that we shouldn't do that.

For those that might be interested, there's a Facebook page created for basketball referees. It's called Basketball Referees.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/basketballrefereegroup/

It is a closed group. A member has to add you and then an admin approves you. If you just request to join without an add, we check your page to see that there's some type of officiating info mentioned/posted/discussed. Most of us can't even have a FB page without have something there about officiating.

Or you can PM me that you are to request to join, so I'll know the name when I see the request and approve you.