Resumption of play procedure.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Granted there were a few things we could have done better, including reminding coaches to be ready to play on second horn.....

I've had P's go so far as to include this in the Captain's Meeting too. Something like, "Gentlemen, we're going to keep this game moving tonight. We're going to be ready to put the ball in play at the second horn. You need to ready too."

[Rich]

It would take a lot for me to give a ball to an inbounding team to score an uncontested layup.

Did you get in the huddle and try to break it up on the second horn? I'm usually not trying to get to my position as quickly as you seem to have been -- I'm making sure the teams are on the floor, we have 10 players, etc.

By rule, you handled things right. But you can be right by rule and still not look good in the process.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

It would take a lot for me to give a ball to an inbounding team to score an uncontested layup.

Did you get in the huddle and try to break it up on the second horn? I'm usually not trying to get to my position as quickly as you seem to have been -- I'm making sure the teams are on the floor, we have 10 players, etc.

By rule, you handled things right. But you can be right by rule and still not look good in the process.

I agree, but if I've already put the ball down once, and they continue to stay in their huddle after my warnings (I'm practically in the middle of the huddle sometimes), I won't lose any sleep over an uncontested layup.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

I agree, but if I've already put the ball down once, and they continue to stay in their huddle after my warnings (I'm practically in the middle of the huddle sometimes), I won't lose any sleep over an uncontested layup.

That was my point, though -- in the OP, the poster said he was in his position on the end line. Even if they'd been slow before, I'm at the huddle announcing "Second horn" and trying to clap them out. If they delay beyond that, *then* I'm heading to my position and if they're STILL in the huddle, you're right, we did all we could.

I've *never* gotten to that point, though. I think I put the ball on the floor once all last season.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

That was my point, though -- in the OP, the poster said he was in his position on the end line. Even if they'd been slow before, I'm at the huddle announcing "Second horn" and trying to clap them out. If they delay beyond that, *then* I'm heading to my position and if they're STILL in the huddle, you're right, we did all we could.

I've *never* gotten to that point, though. I think I put the ball on the floor once all last season.

Ah, you're right. I didn't catch that part. I don't think I've typically gotten into the huddles at the quarter break, but I've never had to. Two-man positioning at the quarter makes it a little (not much) more difficult, especially for the far huddle.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Adam

I agree, but if I've already put the ball down once, and they continue to stay in their huddle after my warnings (I'm practically in the middle of the huddle sometimes), I won't lose any sleep over an uncontested layup.

I agree, and hopefully the teams get the point after that.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Rich

It would take a lot for me to give a ball to an inbounding team to score an uncontested layup.

Did you get in the huddle and try to break it up on the second horn? I'm usually not trying to get to my position as quickly as you seem to have been -- I'm making sure the teams are on the floor, we have 10 players, etc.

By rule, you handled things right. But you can be right by rule and still not look good in the process.

Like I said in the OP, we could have been better about getting in the huddle and being a little more vocal that we are going to inbound the ball. However, since we had already used the procedure once earlier in the game I didn't feel as bad about the second one.

We definitely could have done it better. Lessons learned: Reminder to coaches in coaches meeting, be more vocal and consistent with being in the huddle and warning teams ball is coming into play.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I've had P's go so far as to include this in the Captain's Meeting too. Something like, "Gentlemen, we're going to keep this game moving tonight. We're going to be ready to put the ball in play at the second horn. You need to ready too."

This is something I do in every pregame. I tell the captains and coaches to be ready to play when the second horn sounds. At the same time, I am doing everything I can to make sure we have 10 prior to starting, that being said, I won't wait forever.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I've had P's go so far as to include this in the Captain's Meeting too. Something like, "Gentlemen, we're going to keep this game moving tonight. We're going to be ready to put the ball in play at the second horn. You need to ready too."

And they think the captains are going to go back and tell the coaches this information?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

And they think the captains are going to go back and tell the coaches this information?

I've had partners ask the captains to help us out in this regard; as if the coach is going to stop his lecture because the captain reminds him the first horn has sounded.

I just ask the captains to take care of their teammates, and I leave the TO issue to the coach's meeting.
"Let us know on 30/60, and get them out after that first horn so we can get started on the second."

[bob jenkins]

Football has a "get back coach." Some here have advocated trying to get a "get em out" coach in basketball -- go to that adult and have him/her prod the coach to stop talking. At least the coach can't complain that no adult on his/her staff was "warned".

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Football has a "get back coach." Some here have advocated trying to get a "get em out" coach in basketball -- go to that adult and have him/her prod the coach to stop talking. At least the coach can't complain that no adult on his/her staff was "warned".

Most of my college games when we give the "1st horn" warning there's an AC watching for us who then tells the HC he needs to wrap it up.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Most of my college games when we give the "1st horn" warning there's an AC watching for us who then tells the HC he needs to wrap it up.

Yep -- but that often doesn't filter down to the HS level.

If a team is slow at first, I have been know to get an assistant coach's attention and let him / her know that the team was slow and that I would appreciate his / her help in getting the team out on future TOs.

[Rich]

My captain's meeting was 12 seconds long last night. My coach meetings were exactly the game as always. Name, are the players properly attired, good luck.

I may be cynical, but none of the extra stuff gets through and I'm not really that concerned if a team steals an extra 5-10 seconds on a timeout. I make up for it by administering things like free throws and throw-ins expeditiously.

Once last season, like I said -- I had already talked to an assistant and then the head coach. If there's anything I hate, it's being ignored.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Some here have advocated trying to get a "get em out" coach in basketball, go to that adult and have him/her prod the coach to stop talking. At least the coach can't complain that no adult on his/her staff was "warned".

One of the few times that I will talk to an assistant coach.