non-shooters on free throw

OKREF · #1 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:43pm

There is no rule which says that they must be behind the half court line, it is something we do. Just seems to settle every thing down, with the non administrating official watching these players to make sure nothing goes on.

APG · #2 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:49pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF

There is no rule which says that they must be behind the half court line, it is something we do. Just seems to settle every thing down, with the non administrating official watching these players to make sure nothing goes on.

I'm not going to direct players there...I have no authority to do so, but if they all want to congregate there without my input? I won't say anything...but I have had coaches want to talk to their players and had partners try to direct them back above halfcourt.

OKREF · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:54pm

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Originally Posted by APG

I'm not going to direct players there...I have no authority to do so, but if they all want to congregate there without my input? I won't say anything...but I have had coaches want to talk to their players and had partners try to direct them back above halfcourt.

I ageree. If a coach wants to talk to his players he should be allowed to, I wouldn't make them move to the backcourt.

Raymond · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 02:06pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF

There is no rule which says that they must be behind the half court line, it is something we do. Just seems to settle every thing down, with the non administrating official watching these players to make sure nothing goes on.

So this is a common practice where you work?

OKREF · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:04pm

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So this is a common practice where you work?

Yes. If we have a T, we get the shooter, tell the players to simply get back. One official administers the free throws while the other is watching the other 9 players. If we have a T, most likely tension is high. Also we make sure the official who called the T will be throwing the ball in at half court, so they are away from the table/bench side after we resume/

APG · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:13pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF

Yes. If we have a T, we get the shooter, tell the players to simply get back. One official administers the free throws while the other is watching the other 9 players. If we have a T, most likely tension is high. Also we make sure the official who called the T will be throwing the ball in at half court, so they are away from the table/bench side after we resume/

BNR is asking if it's common practice to direct the players to halfcourt like you implied it was in your area.

OKREF · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:28pm

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BNR is asking if it's common practice to direct the players to halfcourt like you implied it was in your area.

Yes it is.

tjones1 · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:30pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF

Yes it is.

How do you support your direction to the players? What if the coach wants to talk to them?

OKREF · #9 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:35pm

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Originally Posted by tjones1

How do you support your direction to the players? What if the coach wants to talk to them?

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Originally Posted by OKREF

I ageree. If a coach wants to talk to his players he should be allowed to, I wouldn't make them move to the backcourt.

Already addressed this. This has never been an issue. I haver never once had a coach complain about this, or ever seen a coach complain about this. Like I said, if he wants to talk or keep his players and talk to them so be it. They just have to be legal.

Raymond · #10 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:32pm

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Yes it is.

Guess if the coaches aren't complaining then it's not a problem. Just wondering what happens if you get a coach who calls his players over to him and his bench is in the front court during the free throws?

OKREF · #11 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:37pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Guess if the coaches aren't complaining then it's not a problem. Just wondering what happens if you get a coach who calls his players over to him and his bench is in the front court during the free throws?

We allow it, as long as they are above the free throw line extended, outside the 3 point line.

tomegun · #12 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 04:18pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF

Yes. If we have a T, we get the shooter, tell the players to simply get back. One official administers the free throws while the other is watching the other 9 players. If we have a T, most likely tension is high. Also we make sure the official who called the T will be throwing the ball in at half court, so they are away from the table/bench side after we resume/

I understand tensions may be high after a T, but we should be calmer at these times. What if a coach wants to ask you about his/her player...what they did/said to get a T? I will be the first to show my coach my backside if the T is on the coach, but if it on a player I don't mind sticking around to talk to the coach.

This happened last night. I gave a kid a T in the first half and stayed right in front of the coach. He had already asked me what the kid did and I told him. He was talking to his players in front of his bench too. They were fine so I didn't have to move them.

From what you posted is it correct to say you do two-man?

OKREF · #13 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 04:26pm

I do both. The only classes in OK that re 3-man are 5A and 6A. Sure, if the coach wants to talk to him, by all means we stay and talk. This is not a set in stone mechanic. Just something we do here.

tomegun · #14 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 04:30pm

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I do both. The only classes in OK that re 3-man are 5A and 6A. Sure, if the coach wants to talk to him, by all means we stay and talk. This is not a set in stone mechanic. Just something we do here.

So you decide at the time? We stay table side if the T is on a player and go across if it is on a coach. The thought process (I always think logical process) is we should be able to communicate the offense with another adult...unless that adult is the offender. If the adult is the offender, giving some time and space will allow things to calm...in most cases. If they don't calm and the coach goes after an official across the court? That is an easy second T.

OKREF · #15 (**permalink**) Fri Nov 30, 2012, 04:42pm

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So you decide at the time? We stay table side if the T is on a player and go across if it is on a coach. The thought process (I always think logical process) is we should be able to communicate the offense with another adult...unless that adult is the offender. If the adult is the offender, giving some time and space will allow things to calm...in most cases. If they don't calm and the coach goes after an official across the court? That is an easy second T.

Right on. If it is on the coach, we try to get the calling official away, by doing this it cuts down the chances the coach gets another T. Unless he wants to talk to him about the T.

Calling official stays and talks to coach during the free throws, and goes cross court for the inbound.

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