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Chris Whitten Fri Nov 30, 2012 09:59am

non-shooters on free throw
 
Have had two partners (Varsity officials) recently move non-shooters on a free throw who are standing outside the 3 pt arc and just above the free throw line extended to a position above the top of the key. Did I miss a rule change?

bob jenkins Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:00am

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Originally Posted by Chris Whitten (Post 864204)
Have had two partners (Varsity officials) recently move non-shooters on a free throw who are standing outside the 3 pt arc and just above the free throw line extended to a position above the top of the key. Did I miss a rule change?

No.

tjones1 Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:06am

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Originally Posted by Chris Whitten (Post 864204)
Have had two partners (Varsity officials) recently move non-shooters on a free throw who are standing outside the 3 pt arc and just above the free throw line extended to a position above the top of the key. Did I miss a rule change?

No, sir.

8-1-5 is still the same.

Adam Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:09am

Ask them to show you the rule reference. If you're not comfortable with them, blame a skeptical "friend."

Raymond Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:53am

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Originally Posted by Chris Whitten (Post 864204)
Have had two partners (Varsity officials) recently move non-shooters on a free throw who are standing outside the 3 pt arc and just above the free throw line extended to a position above the top of the key. Did I miss a rule change?

Did you leave your book at home also? :)

JugglingReferee Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:06pm

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Originally Posted by Chris Whitten (Post 864204)
Have had two partners (Varsity officials) recently move non-shooters on a free throw who are standing outside the 3 pt arc and just above the free throw line extended to a position above the top of the key. Did I miss a rule change?

I recently had a veteran official during FTs for an INT foul, move non-shooters to beyond half-court. :mad:

Raymond Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:09pm

When someone in a game tells you something that seems suspect, I would check the rule book as soon as possible after the game.

rekent Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:31pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 864241)
I recently had a veteran official during FTs for an INT foul, move non-shooters to beyond half-court. :mad:

Correct would have been anything outside the field of vision of the FT shooter, right? 8-1-3 "... shall not occupy any spaces along the free-throw lane."

I've had officials constantly push them behind half court as well...

bob jenkins Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:38pm

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Originally Posted by rekent (Post 864243)
Correct would have been anything outside the field of vision of the FT shooter, right?

wrong.

Above the FT line extended and beyond the 3-point line.

rekent Fri Nov 30, 2012 01:12pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 864244)
... Above the FT line extended and beyond the 3-point line.

That's what was intended by outside the field of vision.

Freddy Fri Nov 30, 2012 01:41pm

Why
 
One practical way to think about it:
Free throws with the lane vacated seems to be a time used by coaches to gather his players in front of the bench for a quick meeting. Nothing at all wrong with that. But that's a right both coaches deserve.
Those who require all players to move beyond the division line deprive one of the coaches of this opportunity. And if it's the first half and the intentional foul involved one of his players, I want to give him the opportunity to speak to him in this brief stoppage in play.
Make sense?

OKREF Fri Nov 30, 2012 01:43pm

There is no rule which says that they must be behind the half court line, it is something we do. Just seems to settle every thing down, with the non administrating official watching these players to make sure nothing goes on.

APG Fri Nov 30, 2012 01:49pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 864272)
There is no rule which says that they must be behind the half court line, it is something we do. Just seems to settle every thing down, with the non administrating official watching these players to make sure nothing goes on.

I'm not going to direct players there...I have no authority to do so, but if they all want to congregate there without my input? I won't say anything...but I have had coaches want to talk to their players and had partners try to direct them back above halfcourt.

OKREF Fri Nov 30, 2012 01:54pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 864274)
I'm not going to direct players there...I have no authority to do so, but if they all want to congregate there without my input? I won't say anything...but I have had coaches want to talk to their players and had partners try to direct them back above halfcourt.

I ageree. If a coach wants to talk to his players he should be allowed to, I wouldn't make them move to the backcourt.

Raymond Fri Nov 30, 2012 02:06pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 864272)
There is no rule which says that they must be behind the half court line, it is something we do. Just seems to settle every thing down, with the non administrating official watching these players to make sure nothing goes on.

So this is a common practice where you work?


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