Player's Uniforms

[maven]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I disagree. At least 10 minutes >= 10 minutes

Right. Now count down from 20:00.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by maven

Right. Now count down from 20:00.

Ok. Keep going... I'm a pudding head so I'm slow.

[maven]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Ok. Keep going... I'm a pudding head so I'm slow.

If you count down the 10 minute time limit from 20:00, that's going to expire when it ticks from 10:01 to 10:00.

So if you're at 10:00, the time limit has already expired.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by maven

If you count down the 10 minute time limit from 20:00, that's going to expire when it ticks from 10:01 to 10:00.

So if you're at 10:00, the time limit has already expired.

Not necessarily.

And, not relevant to any (basketball) rule.

[maven]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not necessarily.

And, not relevant to any (basketball) rule.

Yeah-huh.

(That's an invitation to offer an argument rather than a mere denial.)

[bob jenkins]

For most clocks, setting the clock to 20:00 is 20:00.000000

Thr first instance of changing from 10:01 to 10:00 is really 10:00.9999999

I think the relevance part is up to you to prove.

[BillyMac]

The official U.S. time - clock

It's accurate to within 0.2 seconds. If you guys need a higher degree of accuracy, as I think that you do, then go to the National Institute of Standards and Technology, or the U. S. Naval Observatory.

[maven]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

For most clocks, setting the clock to 20:00 is 20:00.000000

Thr first instance of changing from 10:01 to 10:00 is really 10:00.9999999

I think the relevance part is up to you to prove.

If the clock is at 10:00.9999999 (whatever it's displaying), then it is not at 10:00. Once it reaches, 10:00, the 10 minute time limit has expired.

The rule specifies the 10 minute time limit. That's the rule we're talking about, so it's relevant.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by maven

Once it reaches, 10:00, the 10 minute time limit has expired.

Maybe, but "reaching 10:00" is not the same as "ticking from 10:01 to 10:00" as you said before.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Maybe, but "reaching 10:00" is not the same as "ticking from 10:01 to 10:00" as you said before.

Bob, you're not normally one to split hairs. Why so particular on this one? It isn't like it is a shot getting released at the buzzer.

I can't imagine anyone (much less you) being so hard nosed in a game that they'll T the coach if the piece of paper with the player's numbers and names doesn't make contact with the scorer's table until 9:59 or some fraction of a second around 10:00.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Bob, you're not normally one to split hairs. Why so particular on this one? It isn't like it is a shot getting released at the buzzer.

I can't imagine anyone (much less you) being so hard nosed in a game that they'll T the coach if the piece of paper with the player's numbers and names doesn't make contact with the scorer's table until 9:59 or some fraction of a second around 10:00.

I think (but maybe I'm wrong) that Maven is the one splitting hairs. I'm just responding to his (in my view) incorrect statement on what heppens when a clokc first changes from 10:01 to 10:00.

I agree it probably doesn't matter (to me) in this case, but it can matter if we use the clock to judge 10 seconds or if the clock shows 0:00 (no tenths) and the horn hasn't sounded, etc.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by maven

If the clock is at 10:00.9999999 (whatever it's displaying), then it is not at 10:00. Once it reaches, 10:00, the 10 minute time limit has expired.

The rule specifies the 10 minute time limit. That's the rule we're talking about, so it's relevant.

Older style clocks that did not register tenths of seconds did not have the horn go off the instant it went from :01 to :00. I think that is Bob's point.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Older style clocks that did not register tenths of seconds did not have the horn go off the instant it went from :01 to :00. I think that is Bob's point.

Except that I would add "SOME clocks ...."