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Old Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:34pm
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Player Control. The defense would have avoided the contact had the shooter gone straight up. He jumped into the defensive player. Offense initiated all the contact.
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Shooting foul all the way. Defender not in LGP and the movement by the shooter did nothing to cause contact IMO.

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Old Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:47pm
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Shooting foul all the way. Defender not in LGP and the movement by the shooter did nothing to cause contact IMO.

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The movement by the shooter caused all the contact.
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:52pm
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Shooting foul on the defense.
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:56pm
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The movement by the shooter caused all the contact.
Nothing the defender did caused any contact? If I were the offensive coach, I don't think I'd accept that explanation.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:05am
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Nothing the defender did caused any contact? If I were the offensive coach, I don't think I'd accept that explanation.
Did the offensive player jump straight up, or did he go outside his vertical plane? He jumped into the defensive player. The player with the ball is to be given no more protection or consideration than the defender in judging which player has violated the rules.

Watch the clip again. If the shooter goes straight up, there will be no contact. He jumps into the defender creating the contact.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:24am
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Did the offensive player jump straight up, or did he go outside his vertical plane? He jumped into the defensive player. The player with the ball is to be given no more protection or consideration than the defender in judging which player has violated the rules.

Watch the clip again. If the shooter goes straight up, there will be no contact. He jumps into the defender creating the contact.
My point is that in no way does the defender jump straight up, either. He jumped into the defensive player, sure, but the defender also jumps into the shooter.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:30am
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My point is that in no way does the defender jump straight up, either. He jumped into the defensive player, sure, but the defender also jumps into the shooter.
Respectfully disagree. If the shooter goes straight up, it looks to me that contact will be avoided.
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The movement by the shooter caused all the contact.
I agree. The defender was trying to get to a spot, and the shooter's movements were premeditated in order to make contact. I may have gone with free throws live, but on replay, I'm not convinced.
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