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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:27am
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Paul, what would a player have to do to goaltend a FT? He would have to intentionally violate by going into the lane and intentionally bat the ball before it reached the rim. So it's an intentional act and is therefore considered unsporting. That's why it's a technical foul.

Now, A1 shoots a FT and B1 legally enters the lane and makes a legal attempt to get the rebound. Unfortunately, he touches the ball while it's in the cylinder. Not an unsporting act, just something that can happen in a game.

That's why GT is a T and BI is not.

The answer is True.
All of that conjecture is nice, but it cannot be correct as until about 8 years ago both GT and BI during a free throw were technical fouls.
This is a test question for which it helps to be a veteran and recall that there was a rule change about this.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:01am
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All of that conjecture is nice, but it cannot be correct as until about 8 years ago both GT and BI during a free throw were technical fouls.
This is a test question for which it helps to be a veteran and recall that there was a rule change about this.
And BBR's 'conjecture' cannot be the reason they changed the rule?
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Old Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:25pm
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And here's another one...

"The official should hand or bounce the ball to the thrower for a throw-in unless the throw-in is from outside an end line following a successful goal or awarded goal."
True or False.

False.

SECTION 6 THROW-IN ADMINISTRATION
ART. 1 . . . The official shall hand or bounce the ball to the thrower for a throwin unless the throw-in is from outside an end line following a successful goal.

That's it. No mention of "awarded goal", and since a technical foul shot can be an awarded goal, as well a foul shot to end a period when time has expired... it still has to be false.

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Old Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:43pm
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Maybe I'm missing something obvious in your explanation but when they speak about an awarded goal, I imagine basket interference or goaltend. In that instance, we are to handle the ball which would make that statement false.
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Someone please explain this one to me... it boggles my mind.

"The free throws must be attempted by A1 and B1 if they foul each other simultaneously after the tossed ball leaves the referee's hand on a jump ball."
True or False?

Huh?
Are A1 and B1 the jumpers?
Double any foul is POI...

And that's where I stopped thinking about it, checked "false" and moved on.

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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:02am
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It doesn't matter if A1 and B1 are the jumpers, but yes, they're more than likely the jumpers in this play.

To answer your question: Are free throws ever shot as a result of a double foul?
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:04am
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To answer your question: Are free throws ever shot as a result of a double foul?

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Double any foul is POI...

And that's where I stopped thinking about it, checked "false" and moved on.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:21am
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Someone please explain this one to me... it boggles my mind.

"The free throws must be attempted by A1 and B1 if they foul each other simultaneously after the tossed ball leaves the referee's hand on a jump ball."
True or False?

Huh?
Are A1 and B1 the jumpers?
Double any foul is POI...

And that's where I stopped thinking about it, checked "false" and moved on.

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It seems that you have some kind of refresher test made up of old questions.
Obviously, under the current rules there are no free throws for a double foul. However, my guess is that by including the phrase "after the tossed ball leaves the referee's hand on a jump ball" the test writer wants the reader to recognize that these are personal fouls and thus any FTs must be attempted by the offended players. So I would answer true.
Poor question though as there won't be any FTs.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:53am
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[QUOTE=Nevadaref;864181]It seems that you have some kind of refresher test made up of old questions.QUOTE] No, this was from this years test!! And it is false because of double foul rule goes to POI
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:57pm
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And here's another one...

"The official should hand or bounce the ball to the thrower for a throw-in unless the throw-in is from outside an end line following a successful goal or awarded goal."
True or False.

False.

SECTION 6 THROW-IN ADMINISTRATION
ART. 1 . . . The official shall hand or bounce the ball to the thrower for a throwin unless the throw-in is from outside an end line following a successful goal.

That's it. No mention of "awarded goal", and since a technical foul shot can be an awarded goal, as well a foul shot to end a period when time has expired... it still has to be false.

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To me the answer is true. The only time the official doesn't have to hand or bounce the ball to the thrower is after a made basket. If it's an awarded goal, it's after either BI or GT, in which case you blow the play dead and then administer a throw-in. A technical foul shot is not an awarded goal, it's a merited free throw based on the "T" ... or am I misunderstanding something?
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:04pm
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To me the answer is true. The only time the official doesn't have to hand or bounce the ball to the thrower is after a made basket. If it's an awarded goal, it's after either BI or GT, in which case you blow the play dead and then administer a throw-in. A technical foul shot is not an awarded goal, it's a merited free throw based on the "T" ... or am I misunderstanding something?
The answer is false. The questions asks if an official should hand or bounce the ball in all throw-in situations except in two:

After a successful field goal: This is true because we don't have to handle the ball

After an awarded field goal: This make the statement false because we have to handle the ball.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:08pm
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After an awarded field goal: This make the statement false because we have to handle the ball.
LOL ... I just said that I did not read the OP carefully. Thanx for the enlightenment.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 12:51am
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One I would like my logic checked on:
If a player is directed to leave the game for excessive blood on the uniform the blood can be wiped off and the player may re-enter at the first opportunity.

3-3-4 says ....next opportunity to substitute after the clock has been properly started properly following his/her replacement.
3-3-7 says ....uniform...is appropriately cleaned.
I say the answer is false because "next opportunity" is not enough information and "wiped" is not "appropriately cleaned".
How is my logic?
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:30am
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And BBR's 'conjecture' cannot be the reason they changed the rule?
It could be under the present set-up of the game, but remember that this could go back to when the lane was only six feet wide. Under that court situation, a player along the lane did not have to violate in order to GT a FT.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:04am
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How long has it been since the lane was 6 ft. wide? I graduated high 1970 and the was not not 6 ft. wide then. Maybe durign Fred & Barneys playing days the lane was made from Flinstone.
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