Block/Charge End of Quarter

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

He didn't take that path to the shot.

He was going to get hit whether he moved or not. He was hit square in the chest and had only move his torso a few inches...no where near enough make the difference in contact or none. It may be a tough call but don't bail the shooter out just because the defender shifts...the rules only require that the defender be in the path and he met that requirement. It's an easy out that too many officials take when the defender twitches or moves a bit but it isn't by rule.

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

He's release his shot and still is airborne but will not be disadvantaged by contact. If a shot was blocked into the 3rd throw and then the collision happened that was caused by the defense would you call that on on the defense? Its about the nature of the play. If their is contact at any point but doesn't gain/create advantage/disadvantage then we no call. Isn't that the nature of no call? The contact isn't helping/hurting either players ability to do anything.

It is about the fact that the shooter elected to take a path that was occupied in order to get a more desirable shot than the defense was allowing. The advantage gained was in the path taken to the shot that carried him through the shooter.

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

He was going to get hit whether he moved or not. He was hit square in the chest and had only move his torso a few inches...no where near enough make the difference in contact or none. It may be a tough call but don't bail the shooter out just because the defender shifts...the rules only require that the defender be in the path and he met that requirement. It's an easy out that too many officials take when the defender twitches or moves a bit but it isn't by rule.


It is about the fact that the shooter elected to take a path that was occupied in order to get a more desirable shot than the defense was allowing. The advantage gained was in the path taken to the shot that carried him through the shooter.

I'm not sure we are going to agree on this one. I feel like (based on what I'm seeing in slo mo) that the defender moved his feet once the player was airborne to get into his path - where he wasn't previous with his feet and chest. That being said at game speed it looked good by the defender.

I understand why the contact and occured and who you are saying is responsible. If the same actions took place but the defense was much larger then the offense and their was little to no displacement. Then you would most likely no call it in any siutation. Almost certainly at the end of the quarter. In this case there is significant displacment but the displacement doesn't gain an advantage or put at a disadvantage the way it normally would because of the clock situation. I'm not arguing to routinely make a pattern of no calling this, but that in isolation the clock situation creates no call as it has no immediate impact on the play.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

I'm not sure we are going to agree on this one. I feel like (based on what I'm seeing in slo mo) that the defender moved his feet once the player was airborne to get into his path - where he wasn't previous with his feet and chest. That being said at game speed it looked good by the defender.

I agree. At super slow motion, you see the defense move slightly to his right, however at full speed I have no problem with how this played was called.