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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:46am
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T For Faking a Foul

Can someone educate me on the history of what we often hear regarding calling a T if a defender fakes/flops.

Was it ever clearly spelled out that that specific action was a T?
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:57am
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Can someone educate me on the history of what we often hear regarding calling a T if a defender fakes/flops.

Was it ever clearly spelled out that that specific action was a T?
See 10-3-6f

ART. 6

A player shall not:

Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts or conduct such as:

f. Faking being fouled, knowingly attempting a free throw or accepting a foul to which the player was not entitled.
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:16am
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See 10-3-6f

ART. 6

A player shall not:

Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts or conduct such as:

f. Faking being fouled, knowingly attempting a free throw or accepting a foul to which the player was not entitled.
Thanks.

Have you ever called a T for faking a PC foul?
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Once, in a kiddie YMCA game. After a warning to the coach. When the defender threw himself backwards and grunted, as the dribbler was about six feet away near half court.
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Once, in a kiddie YMCA game. After a warning to the coach. When the defender threw himself backwards and grunted, as the dribbler was about six feet away near half court.
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Once, in a kiddie YMCA game. After a warning to the coach. When the defender threw himself backwards and grunted, as the dribbler was about six feet away near half court.
Funny ... never called it before, but gave it serious consideration before.
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Never called it, never come close to considering it.
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Old Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:18am
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See 10-3-6f

ART. 6

A player shall not:

Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts or conduct such as:

f. Faking being fouled, knowingly attempting a free throw or accepting a foul to which the player was not entitled.
Does the fact that "faking being fouled" is in conjunction with the free throw wording tell us the intent has to do with free throws specifically?
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Does the fact that "faking being fouled" is in conjunction with the free throw wording tell us the intent has to do with free throws specifically?
No.
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Old Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:42am
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So the en vogue thing for PGs now is to throw their head back when their defender makes contact with them while dribbling. See it all of the time even though there is no foul.

Whack him?
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So the en vogue thing for PGs now is to throw their head back when their defender makes contact with them while dribbling. See it all of the time even though there is no foul.

Whack him?
I would say no ... the potential "faking" T is usually considered to be the play where the defender is attempting to draw a PC/charging foul but flops (no contact) instead. Although, if egregious enough, I guess it could apply in other situations as well.
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Can someone educate me on the history of what we often hear regarding calling a T if a defender fakes/flops. Was it ever clearly spelled out that that specific action was a T?
I don't know about the history of it. But here's a link to an article on the topic:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...TRlYThkZjcyMmI
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Can someone educate me on the history of what we often hear regarding calling a T if a defender fakes/flops.

Was it ever clearly spelled out that that specific action was a T?
The only time I've seen it called was in a sectional game in Indiana (Clinton Prairie/Frankfort) in 1978--it was spelled out in the rules, even back then.

Bad part was, the defender got absolutely trucked.
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