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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:46am
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T For Faking a Foul

Can someone educate me on the history of what we often hear regarding calling a T if a defender fakes/flops.

Was it ever clearly spelled out that that specific action was a T?
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:57am
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Can someone educate me on the history of what we often hear regarding calling a T if a defender fakes/flops.

Was it ever clearly spelled out that that specific action was a T?
See 10-3-6f

ART. 6

A player shall not:

Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts or conduct such as:

f. Faking being fouled, knowingly attempting a free throw or accepting a foul to which the player was not entitled.
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Can someone educate me on the history of what we often hear regarding calling a T if a defender fakes/flops. Was it ever clearly spelled out that that specific action was a T?
I don't know about the history of it. But here's a link to an article on the topic:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...TRlYThkZjcyMmI
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:16am
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See 10-3-6f

ART. 6

A player shall not:

Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts or conduct such as:

f. Faking being fouled, knowingly attempting a free throw or accepting a foul to which the player was not entitled.
Thanks.

Have you ever called a T for faking a PC foul?
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:42am
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Once, in a kiddie YMCA game. After a warning to the coach. When the defender threw himself backwards and grunted, as the dribbler was about six feet away near half court.
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:44am
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Once, in a kiddie YMCA game. After a warning to the coach. When the defender threw himself backwards and grunted, as the dribbler was about six feet away near half court.
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Once, in a kiddie YMCA game. After a warning to the coach. When the defender threw himself backwards and grunted, as the dribbler was about six feet away near half court.
Funny ... never called it before, but gave it serious consideration before.
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Never called it, never come close to considering it.
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:27pm
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Once, somewhat similar circumstances as Adam.

I've given a few players the "not again" talk, but haven't seen a great need for it in games I worked.
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Kid flopped in the paint without any contact between him and his opponent, who went on to score an uncontested layup, causing his coach to call a timeout.

Kid gets up, says "isn't that a foul?" to which I respond: "Not only was there no contact, faking being fouled is supposed to be a Technical Foul. I thought I'd let you off easy."

Kid didn't say a word the rest of the game.
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I have only once had a situation where a kid flopped with no contact. That is the only time I ever considered calling a T. I called nothing because I was shocked and it made no difference. If that happens today I would likely call a T (no contact), otherwise I would likely pass on the foul or call a block if little contact takes place. I also feel there is a difference between flopping and embellishing too.

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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:20pm
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So what would you call a T for and base it on "faking being fouled?"
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Old Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:18am
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See 10-3-6f

ART. 6

A player shall not:

Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts or conduct such as:

f. Faking being fouled, knowingly attempting a free throw or accepting a foul to which the player was not entitled.
Does the fact that "faking being fouled" is in conjunction with the free throw wording tell us the intent has to do with free throws specifically?
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Does the fact that "faking being fouled" is in conjunction with the free throw wording tell us the intent has to do with free throws specifically?
No.
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