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Old Wed Nov 07, 2012, 10:52pm
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Yes, there is.

In one place in very plain language, it says that fighting is a technical foul without mention of the status of the ball (live/dead).

Elsewhere, it says that live ball contact is a personal foul.


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If the whole incident is a fight, it begins with the start of the first blow. The ball is already dead when the contact occurs.
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2012, 11:09pm
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If the whole incident is a fight, it begins with the start of the first blow. The ball is already dead when the contact occurs.
I agree with Camron. You can't, however, just retroactively make the ball dead prior to contact just to make it fit.
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If the whole incident is a fight, it begins with the start of the first blow. The ball is already dead when the contact occurs.
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You can't, however, just retroactively make the ball dead prior to contact just to make it fit.
This reminds me of the controversial backcourt violation that we have discussed here, on the Forum, many times, where the offensive player, with team control, "causes" the ball to go into the backcourt because he is the first to touch the ball in the backcourt, by simply catching a ball in the air, and then landing, a ball that has been tapped back there by a defensive player.
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