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Old Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:28am
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HS / NCAA - yes

WNBA - no (especially if it is female )....now you think I'm kidding listen to this.
I don't think that it earns a T at the NBA level either

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In the NCAA - W handouts ( I work men's but saw this at a small college clinic), I guess bench decorum is a POE. Well the picture of a coach coaching on the court is a WOMAN ( no technical), but the picturre of a coach
screaming/ being demonstrative ont he court is a MAN.....you don't think the rules committee did that on purpose ?????


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Old Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:34am
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:41am
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Don't be so nieve my friend.......if the Women's Committe could come up with 96 women officials they would do it in a heartbeat......

I have seen letters from more than one state asking assigners for minorities and women to work state tournaments, you really don't think the NCAA -W Committee feels the same way ??????
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:44am
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Don't be so nieve my friend.......if the Women's Committe could come up with 96 women officials they would do it in a heartbeat......

I have seen letters from more than one state asking assigners for minorities and women to work state tournaments, you really don't think the NCAA -W Committee feels the same way ??????
I'm only addressing your point that there's some nefarious reason behind the gender of a faceless picture addressing bench decorum.
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I'm only addressing your point that there's some nefarious reason behind the gender of a faceless picture addressing bench decorum.
Fair enough my friend.......
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:13pm
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I expect emotional responses to Ts and I don't want to pile on. If the jacket was slammed to the floor or launched across the floor, I'd think differently.
Why do expect emotional responses to a 'T'? Both the player and the coach got T'd on a play that the official absolutely got right. So after being T'd for inappropriate behavior they should be allotted more inappropriate behavior?
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:20pm
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Why do expect emotional responses to a 'T'? Both the player and the coach got T'd on a play that the official absolutely got right. So after being T'd for inappropriate behavior they should be allotted more inappropriate behavior?
They are already acting irrationally. Irrational people confronted with that irrationality are going to react with more irrationality.

Do you really expect them to suddenly become calm?
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They are already acting irrationally. Irrational people confronted with that irrationality are going to react with more irrationality.

Do you really expect them to suddenly become calm?
If they know the 2nd T is coming (maybe not calm but more self control) Id say yes.
If they know they can get away with it, obviously not.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:32pm
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They are already acting irrationally. Irrational people confronted with that irrationality are going to react with more irrationality.

Do you really expect them to suddenly become calm?
Yes, yes I do.

Remarkably, they usually do.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:35pm
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They are already acting irrationally. Irrational people confronted with that irrationality are going to react with more irrationality.

Do you really expect them to suddenly become calm?
I've only ever had 1 coach who didn't immediately turn it down after getting hit with a Tech, so the norm for me is that they are more than capable of suddenly becoming calm.

That 1 coach I speak of received a 2nd T for his actions.
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For the Jacket, no. For other stuff (yelling along with it), perhaps. Just not for removing the jacket and throwing it to her bench/seat.
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I've only ever had 1 coach who didn't immediately turn it down after getting hit with a Tech, so the norm for me is that they are more than capable of suddenly becoming calm.

That 1 coach I speak of received a 2nd T for his actions.
Sounds like it's one of those things that vary with locations then.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:11pm
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In high school, this would earn a second technical from me.

I don't know about the college level or professional basketball. Just from watching D1 basketball, coaches often get away with murder and officials don't penalize them, so I have my doubts that a lot of D1 men's officials would penalize the jacket toss. Now if it were accompanied by yelling and other demonstrative behavior, then I could see another technical.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:12pm
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Sounds like it's one of those things that vary with locations then.
It probably varies with enforcement. I've only had to issue a second T one time, in a summer travel game to an assistant coach.

Even this week I had a pretty emotional coach get a T, but he sat right down. If amateur coaches are capable of controling their emotions, the professionals can do it, too.
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I don't think that warrants a second technical. Official absolutely blew the call in my opinion.
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