iPads officially illegal:NCAA ruling

[BayStateRef]

Just got my new NCAA books,,,and see that iPads are now illegal for men.

"The use of computers (including iPads), even when used solely for statistics is prohibited per Rule 10-6 since the devices are capable of electronic transmission."

It is A.R. 299.

Now if the NFHS would be as clear.

Edit: I got it wrong the first time. This applies only to the men's side and confirms last year's practice. On the women's side, the ruling is that iPads are OK unless they are used for electronic transmission/communication.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

Just got my new NCAA books,,,and see that iPads are now illegal for both men and women.

"The use of computers (including iPads), even when used solely for statistics is prohibited per Rule 10-6 since the devices are capable of electronic transmission."

It is A.R. 299.

Now if the NFHS would be as clear.

It will be clear. Next year when you buy a new rule book.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

It will be clear. Next year when you buy a new rule book.

The iPad version?

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

Just got my new NCAA books,,,and see that iPads are now illegal for both men and women.

"The use of computers (including iPads), even when used solely for statistics is prohibited per Rule 10-6 since the devices are capable of electronic transmission."

It is A.R. 299.

Now if the NFHS would be as clear.

Looks like they are illegal only if used at the bench and/or by coach. It looks like there is no restriction on how table crew (statisticians/SIDs) can compile statistics there.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

Looks like they are illegal only if used at the bench and/or by coach. It looks like there is no restriction on how table crew (statisticians/SIDs) can compile statistics there.

Is this a "left-handed" attempt to get the EAGLE'S feather's up?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

Now if the NFHS would be as clear.

10-3 . . . Use television monitoring or replay equipment or computers (other
than for statistics) for coaching purposes during the game or any intermission or
use a megaphone or any mechanical sounding device or any electronic
transmission device at courtside for coaching purposes, or electronic equipment
for voice communication with players.

What's unclear about that?

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Is this a "left-handed" attempt to get the EAGLE'S feather's up?

Not at all, grunewar. Just seeking clarification that the prohibition applies only to coaches and/or the bench area and not elsewhere where they have legitimate use and purpose.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

What's unclear about that?

Although the rule may seem pretty clear, the interpretation isn't in regard to "white board" applications to diagram plays.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Although the rule may seem pretty clear, the interpretation isn't in regard to "white board" applications to diagram plays.

It is here. iPads are not allowed because it's too difficult for the officials to determine how they're being used.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

It is here. iPads are not allowed because it's too difficult for the officials to determine how they're being used.

From past threads, I was led to believe that there were various "local" interpretations, as well as differences between the NFHS interpretation, and international, state, and local, IAABO interpretations.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

Looks like they are illegal only if used at the bench and/or by coach. It looks like there is no restriction on how table crew (statisticians/SIDs) can compile statistics there.

Was there ever a question whether iPads were allowed at the scorer's table?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Was there ever a question whether iPads were allowed at the scorer's table?

An athletic director, here in my little corner of Connecticut, asked our local board interpreter if he could use an iPad application, for the coming basketball season, that acted as a scorebook and that was wirelessly connected to the scoreboard. Our interpreter replied that he thought that it was legal but to make sure he would get back to him after discussing it with the NFHS, and IAABO, Grand Pubahs.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

An athletic director, here in my little corner of Connecticut, asked our local board interpreter if he could use an iPad application, for the coming basketball season, that acted as a scorebook and that was wirelessly connected to the scoreboard. Our interpreter replied that he thought that it was legal but to make sure he would get back to him after discussing it with the NFHS, and IAABO, Grand Pubahs.

Even if this is allowed, I wouldn't want it if I was AD. I'd prefer the "checks and balances" of having the score book and the score board separately operated. Sure, if they differ and you don't know why, you go with the scorebook. But, it's just as often (or it's often enough) that the scorer misses something and is reminded of it only by seeing that the scoreboard has something different.

[BayStateRef]

Upon further review, I made a mistake on the new NCAA ruling on iPads.

The case book play applies only to the men's side.

There is no change for women's NCAA (yet.)

What is interesting is the rule underlying the case play is word-for-word identical for both women and men.

This is the language:
For Women, it is a bench technical (Rule 10-4.2)
For Men, it is a Class B technical (Rule 10-6.2d)
Using electronic transmission (including but not limited to headsets, telephones, television, radio, audio or video Internet broadcast, heart monitor devices, computers), or knowledge gained resulting from thereof, for coaching purposes, to communicate to and/or from the bench area or using replay equipment at courtside for coaching purposes.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Even if this is allowed, I wouldn't want it if I was AD. I'd prefer the "checks and balances" of having the score book and the score board separately operated. Sure, if they differ and you don't know why, you go with the scorebook. But, it's just as often (or it's often enough) that the scorer misses something and is reminded of it only by seeing that the scoreboard has something different.

The scoreboard, and scorebook, would both be digital, and connected. A two point field goal for Red 32 gets "typed" into the digital scorebook, Red Team gets two points on the visible scoreboard. A foul on White 23 gets "typed" into the digital scorebook, White Team gets a a foul added to their team fouls on the visible scoreboard. The running score in the digital scorebook would always match the score on the digital scoreboard.

The school that wants to use this application lost a game last year due to an error involving the home scorebook (they were the home team) and the visible scoreboard. Supposedly, this application would avoid this type of error.