iPads officially illegal:NCAA ruling

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Was there ever a question whether iPads were allowed at the scorer's table?

An athletic director, here in my little corner of Connecticut, asked our local board interpreter if he could use an iPad application, for the coming basketball season, that acted as a scorebook and that was wirelessly connected to the scoreboard. Our interpreter replied that he thought that it was legal but to make sure he would get back to him after discussing it with the NFHS, and IAABO, Grand Pubahs.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

An athletic director, here in my little corner of Connecticut, asked our local board interpreter if he could use an iPad application, for the coming basketball season, that acted as a scorebook and that was wirelessly connected to the scoreboard. Our interpreter replied that he thought that it was legal but to make sure he would get back to him after discussing it with the NFHS, and IAABO, Grand Pubahs.

Even if this is allowed, I wouldn't want it if I was AD. I'd prefer the "checks and balances" of having the score book and the score board separately operated. Sure, if they differ and you don't know why, you go with the scorebook. But, it's just as often (or it's often enough) that the scorer misses something and is reminded of it only by seeing that the scoreboard has something different.

[BayStateRef]

Upon further review, I made a mistake on the new NCAA ruling on iPads.

The case book play applies only to the men's side.

There is no change for women's NCAA (yet.)

What is interesting is the rule underlying the case play is word-for-word identical for both women and men.

This is the language:
For Women, it is a bench technical (Rule 10-4.2)
For Men, it is a Class B technical (Rule 10-6.2d)
Using electronic transmission (including but not limited to headsets, telephones, television, radio, audio or video Internet broadcast, heart monitor devices, computers), or knowledge gained resulting from thereof, for coaching purposes, to communicate to and/or from the bench area or using replay equipment at courtside for coaching purposes.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Even if this is allowed, I wouldn't want it if I was AD. I'd prefer the "checks and balances" of having the score book and the score board separately operated. Sure, if they differ and you don't know why, you go with the scorebook. But, it's just as often (or it's often enough) that the scorer misses something and is reminded of it only by seeing that the scoreboard has something different.

The scoreboard, and scorebook, would both be digital, and connected. A two point field goal for Red 32 gets "typed" into the digital scorebook, Red Team gets two points on the visible scoreboard. A foul on White 23 gets "typed" into the digital scorebook, White Team gets a a foul added to their team fouls on the visible scoreboard. The running score in the digital scorebook would always match the score on the digital scoreboard.

The school that wants to use this application lost a game last year due to an error involving the home scorebook (they were the home team) and the visible scoreboard. Supposedly, this application would avoid this type of error.

[Adam]

Billy, I think bob understands the concept, but part of the benefit of the older system is having that division of responsibility and inherent redundancy.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The scoreboard, and scorebook, would both be digital, and connected. A two point field goal for Red 32 gets "typed" into the digital scorebook, Red Team gets two points on the visible scoreboard. A foul on White 23 gets "typed" into the digital scorebook, White Team gets a a foul added to their team fouls on the visible scoreboard. The running score in the digital scorebook would always match the score on the digital scoreboard.

The school that wants to use this application lost a game last year due to an error involving the home scorebook (they were the home team) and the visible scoreboard. Supposedly, this application would avoid this type of error.

Such errors would only be avoided if there were two or more people entering the events independently such that the system compared the records and flagged the discrepancy the moment it occurred.

Having the two elements (board and book) controlled from a unified entry system would only ensure that they agreed....not that they were correct.