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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:38pm
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Kind of different, but not totally. Remember that the play before this was a typical kneel. The defense played it like a real play, so NYG got pissed off and ran a regular handoff - and we all know what happened there.

It was obvious watching the game that the defense was coming. The O Line not defending was frankly stupid. Would anyone be calling this Bush if Eli was so surprised he did end up fumbling?
The kneel down as we know it did not start to take place until after that game. Basically the QB snapped the ball and would fall down. That is very different than what has happen thousands of times since at all levels. What they did was legal, but it was unnecessary. If the other team has the ball and they are in that formation, the game is basically over.

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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:45pm
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The kneel down as we know it did not start to take place until after that game. Basically the QB snapped the ball and would fall down. That is very different than what has happen thousands of times since at all levels. What they did was legal, but it was unnecessary. If the other team has the ball and they are in that formation, the game is basically over.

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Then why play the last 30 seconds (or whatever was left)? Why not just stop the game right there? Like I asked before - why even have Tampa's defense on the field?
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:55pm
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Then why play the last 30 seconds (or whatever was left)? Why not just stop the game right there? Like I asked before - why even have Tampa's defense on the field?
Like APG said as it relates to basketball, do we end the game with 20 seconds left when teams clearly have given up? No, so why do it in this case? Isn't the same thing happening? Could we not make the same case in basketball games? After all this does not happen in just 20 point blowouts, I have seen it when 5 or 10 points and a lot can happen in 20 seconds right?

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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:21pm
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Like APG said as it relates to basketball, do we end the game with 20 seconds left when teams clearly have given up? No, so why do it in this case? Isn't the same thing happening? Could we not make the same case in basketball games? After all this does not happen in just 20 point blowouts, I have seen it when 5 or 10 points and a lot can happen in 20 seconds right?

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Uhmmmm, I think you just made my point for me.
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 04:40pm
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Like APG said as it relates to basketball, do we end the game with 20 seconds left when teams clearly have given up? No, so why do it in this case? Isn't the same thing happening? Could we not make the same case in basketball games? After all this does not happen in just 20 point blowouts, I have seen it when 5 or 10 points and a lot can happen in 20 seconds right?

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Basketball is not a good analogy. In basketball it's the team getting beat that decides when it's time to hang it up. If the losing team gives up (i.e. stops pressing or fouling), then there's no reason for the winning team to do anything to disrupt that. In football, the team that is losing may not have decided it's give up time. I see nothing wrong with trying to win the game - that's their jobs. Unwritten rule or not.
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 04:43pm
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Basketball is not a good analogy. In basketball it's the team getting beat that decides when it's time to hang it up. If the losing team gives up (i.e. stops pressing or fouling), then there's no reason for the winning team to do anything to disrupt that. In football, the team that is losing may not have decided it's give up time. I see nothing wrong with trying to win the game - that's their jobs. Unwritten rule or not.
We are not asking them to give up, but not be silly. And not many fumbled snaps are caused by blowing up the left tackle.

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