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Old Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:41pm
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Old Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:21pm
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When Pigs Fly ???

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Old Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:43pm
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Old Thu Aug 16, 2012, 03:49am
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This happen in the SEC Championship game about 7 or 8 years ago. I saw this live on TV and was shocked.

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Don't make your self age so quickly. It wasn't nearly that long ago...it was in 2008.

It was the boneheaded idea of Billy Gillespie to tell one of Kentucky's players to goaltend the FT. His desire was to force the score to be awarded instead of allowing the clock to start on the obvious deliberate miss that was going to occur....there was about 1 second left on the clock and the shooting team was already up by 2. The only problem was that he didn't know that the GT also came with a T in that case....as it should.
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Old Thu Aug 16, 2012, 04:39am
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Don't make your self age so quickly. It wasn't nearly that long ago...it was in 2008.

It was the boneheaded idea of Billy Gillespie to tell one of Kentucky's players to goaltend the FT. His desire was to force the score to be awarded instead of allowing the clock to start on the obvious deliberate miss that was going to occur....there was about 1 second left on the clock and the shooting team was already up by 2. The only problem was that he didn't know that the GT also came with a T in that case....as it should.
That description sounds eerily similar to the clip I posted earlier...oh wait....

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Falsies ...

4.19.9 SITUATION A: A1 leaps high and is fouled by B1 as he/she taps the ball
which subsequently goes through A’s basket. A1 fouls B2 in returning to the floor.
RULING: This is a false double foul. The foul by B1 does not cause the ball to
become dead. However, the player-control foul by A1 does cause the ball to
become dead and also dictates that no goal can be scored. Since the goal is not
scored, A1 is awarded two free throws for the foul by B1. No players are allowed
along the lane as Team B will be awarded the ball following the last free throw. If
the last throw is successful, the throw-in is from anywhere along the end line. If
the last throw is unsuccessful, the throw-in is from a designated spot nearest the
foul. (4-1; 4-11; 4-41-1; 6-7-7 Exception c: 6-7-4; 7-5-4a)

4.19.9 SITUATION B: B1 holds A1, whose team is in the bonus. A1 is successful
in both free-throw attempts. While B1 is making the throw-in from behind
the end line, A1 pushes B2 near midcourt. Team B is or is not in the bonus situation.
RULING: If Team B is in the bonus, B2 is either awarded a one-and-one and
the ball remains in play if either free-throw attempt touches the basket ring but is
not successful, or is awarded two free throws and the ball remains in play if the
second is unsuccessful. If the last free-throw attempt by B2 is successful, Team
A shall put the ball in play from out of bounds anywhere along the end line by B’s
basket. If Team B is not in the bonus, it is awarded the ball for a throw-in from a
designated spot out of bounds nearest to where the foul occurred. Penalties are
administered in the order in which the fouls occurred. (7-5-4a)

4.19.9 SITUATION C: A1 has a breakaway lay-up. B1 commits a hard foul
against A1 from behind and is called for an intentional foul. The Team A head
coach protests, feeling the foul should have been a flagrant foul and is assessed
a technical foul. RULING: Award A1's goal if successful. A1 shall receive two free
throws with the lane spaces cleared. Any Team B player is then awarded two free
throws for the technical foul. Team B will be awarded the ball for a throw-in at the
division line opposite the scorers table.
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Old Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:53am
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Don't make your self age so quickly. It wasn't nearly that long ago...it was in 2008.
Well 2008 to me seems like 7 or 8 years ago to me personally.

A lot has gone on in my officiating life since then as well so it seems like it was a long time ago. I just know it happened, I was not exactly sure when but remember the play that APG referenced mainly because I use this clip in my class that I teach in the fall as the only example of a GT on a FT. I also thought the reason they moved the SEC Championship Tournament that year was because of Hurricane Katrina, because playing at that facility was certainly a last minute change if I remember correctly which happen in 2005 and why I said 7 or 8 years ago. I guess there was some other reason for the change.

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Old Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:26am
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Well 2008 to me seems like 7 or 8 years ago to me personally.

A lot has gone on in my officiating life since then as well so it seems like it was a long time ago. I just know it happened, I was not exactly sure when but remember the play that APG referenced mainly because I use this clip in my class that I teach in the fall as the only example of a GT on a FT. I also thought the reason they moved the SEC Championship Tournament that year was because of Hurricane Katrina, because playing at that facility was certainly a last minute change if I remember correctly which happen in 2005 and why I said 7 or 8 years ago. I guess there was some other reason for the change.

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This play was discussed in a couple camps this summer. SEC tournament got moved because of tornado damage.
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A small city in a remote area was hosting a high calibre communitly college tournament a considerable number of years ago. Having no officials in that area capable of handling that level of ball, three other officals and I were flown there to handle the week end tournament.
They went big time there with a nice hospitality suite sponsored by the local brewer.

Saturday afternoon we work the semis which finish at about 6 o'clock and after eating supper we decide to go out on the town. One of the 4 says he does want to go because he wants to bone up on the rule book.

That individual and I have the finals the next afternoon. Hard fought game, with a point difference of about 4 points. I, the referee, check with scorer as game ends, she indicates all is well and I head for the dressing room which was phys ed teachers office looking out on the gym.
Thirsty as hell and wanting to hit that hospitality suite, I yank my shirt off and was ready to take a shower. All of a sudden I wonder where the other ref is and then hear some whistles.

Panicking I put my shirt on (inside out as someone kindly pointed out to me later) and go on the court to see whats happening. Well winning team was cutting net and the other ref was giving T's with each snip.

Fortunately I was able to go up to him and inform him that I had approved the score and nothing could be done.

Boy did those beers taste good.
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