2012 Gold Medal Game: Spain v. USA

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No problem, just trying to understand what you meant exactly.

And it has stood out to many of us watching. Also the Lead has loved to be in the lane in much of the time as well. Not something that gets taught at in the mechanics of this country.

Peace

I was reading through the FIBA 3 man mechanics, and this is something they teach in their mechanics to do on plays going to the basket. But then again, that's not the only thing they do differently with their mechanics.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Here's a thought for the Olympic players, Doug Collins and everyone else that complained about the officials.....STOP FOULING!!!!!

The play that caused Collins to start his long-winded monologue about the officials was when Carmelo was whistled for holding Marc Gasol with BOTH HANDS to prevent him from getting a rebound....Ray Charles could have seen that foul......

If there is one or two fouls called that you don't like...OK....but when the fouls continue to be called, it's not the officials fault....it's the players fault who keep fouling!!!!!

I agree, there were other fouls I would have passed on, but the one Collins was whining about was a good call.

[APG]

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I was reading through the FIBA 3 man mechanics, and this is something they teach in their mechanics to do on plays going to the basket. But then again, that's not the only thing they do differently with their mechanics.

Likely the belief about stationary on a drive to the hoop.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Damn, I didn't see the little guy in fatigues when watching realtime. Explains the head reaction while being held by the leg.

[Multiple Sports]

Does anyone know the name of the three officials that worked the gold medal game and what their primary league is ???????

How does everyone think the NCAA DI Championship crew would hae done on this game???? Assuming they got all the FIBA differences correct............

[tref]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Does anyone know the name of the three officials that worked the gold medal game and what their primary league is ???????

2012 Olympics Basketball

click on games & scroll down

[Camron Rust]

I only got to see the Mens and Womens' gold medal games. Most of the games were not available on my TV package....they were on NBCSN and I don't get that channel.

Even those two games, the officiating was.....rough, particularly the women's game. I think just about any 1st round NCAA game is better officiated than what I saw in the Olympics. It is too bad they don't make use of more officials from the USA.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Officials use the term differently. There were a lot of times I would have passed on some of the contact because it had no affect on play. That being said I did not see many players adjusting. It was clear that a lot of these things were going to be called, you have to adjust. Then again I have not been impressed with much of the officiating in this tournament as a whole. There often is no real rhyme or reason for what is called and not called. It just seems like the calls were random for the most part.

Peace

Agreed with the bold part.

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

How does everyone think the NCAA DI Championship crew would hae done on this game???? Assuming they got all the FIBA differences correct............

I think they would have done exponentially better. I did not think the guys in the gold medal game were very strong.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I only got to see the Mens and Womens' gold medal games. Most of the games were not available on my TV package....they were on NBCSN and I don't get that channel.

Even those two games, the officiating was.....rough, particularly the women's game. I think just about any 1st round NCAA game is better officiated than what I saw in the Olympics. It is too bad they don't make use of more officials from the USA.

Yep. My thoughts exactly.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Okay, I didn't see this angle during the game. I don't disagree with the USC call from this view. He clearly grabs the leg in an attempt to neutralize the opponent's obvious advantage. If I saw that grab in one of my games, I'd go with the X.

The original angle they showed us made it look like he just pushed him while trying to get to the ball.

But the reaction was classic. Grown men (and women) should be embarrassed to be seen doing something so cheap.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I only got to see the Mens and Womens' gold medal games. Most of the games were not available on my TV package....they were on NBCSN and I don't get that channel.

Actually the games were shown on a special basketball channel that only played basketball games. They had the same thing set up for Soccer as every day there were games throughout the Olympics. You probably did not get that either in a TV package that was offered to you. It was rare that any of the games ended up on the other stations or that covered the entire game without commercial interruption. I will admit that I did not watch every minute of every game or most games, but what I saw was often head scratching.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Even those two games, the officiating was.....rough, particularly the women's game. I think just about any 1st round NCAA game is better officiated than what I saw in the Olympics. It is too bad they don't make use of more officials from the USA.

I can think of HS games that were better officiated at some random school during any season. It was mostly bad from what I could tell.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Okay, I didn't see this angle during the game. I don't disagree with the USC call from this view. He clearly grabs the leg in an attempt to neutralize the opponent's obvious advantage. If I saw that grab in one of my games, I'd go with the X.

The original angle they showed us made it look like he just pushed him while trying to get to the ball.

But the reaction was classic. Grown men (and women) should be embarrassed to be seen doing something so cheap.

Still have to disagree with the call.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Still have to disagree with the call.

Are you disagreeing with the USC part of the call? I would have a hard time calling anything other than a normal foul here.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are you disagreeing with the USC part of the call? I would have a hard time calling anything other than a normal foul here.

Peace

I disagree with the USC part of the call. At first, I thought they went with a USC foul because there was no defender between the the Spanish player and the basket and he was fouled from the side/behind. But on replay they showed that Chris Paul was clearly between everyone and the basket.

Foul it definitely was, but I don't see myself upgrading on this play.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I disagree with the USC part of the call. At first, I thought they went with a USC foul because there was no defender between the the Spanish player and the basket and he was fouled from the side/behind. But on replay they showed that Chris Paul was clearly between everyone and the basket.

Foul it definitely was, but I don't see myself upgrading on this play.

Just to be clear.

A1 loses the ball in a crowd of defenders.
B1, between A1 and the ball, starts to reach for it.
A1 grabs B1's leg and pulls him to the floor as B2 gets the ball and starts heading down court.

You're not going with an intentional?

Would it matter if B2 was releasing a pass to a wide open B3 streaking for the hoop? I don't know if I would have upgraded with the C's view (and he was going in, too, IMS), but from the camera angle it seemed pretty clear.

Of course, the slow motion might be making a huge difference in how I see this play, too.