Iguodala blocks his own dunk

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

OK, I just went back and looked, frame by frame. There is one frame where it appears the ball has just contacted the player, and the top of the ball is behind net (from the POV of the camera). Depth perception is impossible to see in 2D, and it is not clear at all (especially looking at the immediately preceding frame) that the ball is not still contacting the net.

I grant you that the ball is likely beyond the point within the net where it's making enough contact to still snap the ball back up - but if we're judging BI vs Basket, the ball is not beyond the entirety of the net, and is not clearly lost contact with the net either.

Suffice it to say, I'm not one to sit back right here and castigate the officials who gave this a no-call, me not being there in the heat of the game, in transition, officiating the defense on that play, there in front of the whole entire world watching either in the arena or on TV. Heck, I'da probably lapsed into the old "blond deer in the headlights" thing and just stood there thinking, "What the Wide World of Sports just happened?!"
However, thanks to this thread I'm more clear on the relevant rules than I was before I found it. Interesting comparison with the thread a week or so ago entitled something like, "Dunk Pops Out" or similar.
Good discussion.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Suffice it to say, I'm not one to sit back right here and castigate the officials who gave this a no-call, me not being there in the heat of the game, in transition, officiating the defense on that play, there in front of the whole entire world watching either in the arena or on TV. Heck, I'da probably lapsed into the old "blond deer in the headlights" thing and just stood there thinking, "What the Wide World of Sports just happened?!"
However, thanks to this thread I'm more clear on the relevant rules than I was before I found it. Interesting comparison with the thread a week or so ago entitled something like, "Dunk Pops Out" or similar.
Good discussion.

Dunk That Pops Out or BI?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I have no problem with anybody saying they would miss this call in real time as I'm sure I would also.

But to say that watching the replay that you don't see the ball clearing the net and then hitting AI in the chest before passing back up through the basket is bewildering.

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

OK, I just went back and looked, frame by frame. There is one frame where it appears the ball has just contacted the player, and the top of the ball is behind net (from the POV of the camera). Depth perception is impossible to see in 2D, and it is not clear at all (especially looking at the immediately preceding frame) that the ball is not still contacting the net.

I grant you that the ball is likely beyond the point within the net where it's making enough contact to still snap the ball back up - but if we're judging BI vs Basket, the ball is not beyond the entirety of the net, and is not clearly lost contact with the net either.

Exactly, there is no way in the video linked above that anyone can conclusively say it cleared the net. There may be other videos with different angles that allow for that conclusion, but not this one.

At no time was there any complete clear line looking between the ball and the net. They were overlapping in the angle available. You simply can not conclude whether it was touching or not.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by comical

Iguodala was looking up at the scoreboard and then appeared to be asking an official if the basket had counted.

Did anyone else detect a slight "smirk" on the face of the official?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Your wife really talks like that when asking questions about a basketball game you're watching??? Where do I sign up to get my wife lessons?

If my former wife had done this, I may have still been married.